Disagree.. This is the perfect episode to show it from the 'victims' perspective...I'd even go as far as to say they should have replaced Arya with another unknown. It would have been a great shift in the usual story telling (to suddenly shift to more unknown characters) to show us exactly what varys was talking about in regards to the effects the battle has on the populace by those who think they have a divine right to rule. This episode was supposed to show you the horrors on the ground from the so called 'nobodies' perspective. The horrors of war\battle and how it turns the victors into savages (very true of historic battles in our own history), and how regardless of the grand stories and wishes you may have for your 'heroes' it's the vast majority who suffer.
As i say I don't have a dog in the fight - but I will say you are defending somewhat hamfisted writing via plot arc Which is exactly the point I was making in the first place It shouldn't be needed to patch over technical issues by arguing for narrative - the plot should be advanced without kitten strangling, exposition etc
That makes no sense to me. That narrative they tried (with the civilian perspective) was one of the best parts of the episode...but there were plenty of other narrative issues (in my opinion) that were not good. Technical issues are camera shots, special effects etc. If you are saying you didn't like that they showed a mother and daughter etc, in peril and witnessing the horrors...that's your personal opinion on taste, and not a technical issue. If you want to concentrate more on main characters, again...that's your personal opinion on you wanting obvious tropes..and dismissing another's take from the scenes. The whole last 2 seasons were rushed, I think that's the only thing everybody watching agrees with. And I have no doubt the writers and actors would agree also. There have also been some really unnecessary scenes, and long term plot failures. But, The over-reaction by a lot of people watching (either by not having the story they wanted or jumping on sheep bandwagons) seems a little comical.
I disagree The whole point is that the audience is not invested in the fate of kings landing because they have no reason to be - rather reinforced by Tyrion's monologue to Cersei Hence kitten strangling and mopey Snow thrown in at the last minute, to make Dany's actions feel bad This is exactly what is meant by technical issues - the show runners have to resort to cheap emotional tricks to carry the plot arc
It's not cheap emotional tricks. You are coming at this like some sort of robot, that has been programmed to tell stories in a certain way and not deviate (You're not german are you ) Guess what, in the real world children suffer and they witness horrors...and the vast majority of the adult human species feel a range of feelings regarding children due to evolved protective nature. That's why its used in film and TV...because a) it happens and b) sure, it gets an emotional reaction. This is why the 2 video games classed as having the biggest emotional impact are : the walking dead and the last of us...it's mainly because they involve childeren. To palm it off as kitten strangling is short sighted and grasping at an argument.
They actually said they made us see how Arya saw things so we would care. There was no reason to care about what happened to those people prior to that even with Tyrion suddenly concerned about the people the last two episodes. Likewise, the reason for Arya to be in that situation was flimsy at best.
Perhaps my problems with the show are too anorak but I believe this is why so many people have complained about what they saw - it's didn't connect emotionally. Of course we are judging the show by it's own elite standards. And if this is the story you wanted to tell you can craft it much better. e.g. Make Dany murder the kid herself directly - if you want to break through the meaningless red shirt slaughter. Dany is a character people are invested in - so you can go all the way to the bottom with it, IMO the problem is that your having to resort to this kind of manipulation because you start trying to tell a story different to the one you've been telling. The horror of war seems quite a diversion. But the evil of Dany could have been told more directly through her character.
I think you misunderstand my argument. e.g. American Sniper has a classic kitten strangle to raise the stakes to the highest possible level when he snipes the kid. On the other hand the climax of Sophie's choice is not a kitten strangle, even though the kids die. The film worked to create that moment in a realistic way. Or of course the death of Ned. That was not a strangle. When Lucas talked about kitten strangling, he didn't mean that kittens, kids etc can't die. He was speaking against crude emotional manipulation. The theatrical release of THX-1138 didn’t go over well, and when buddy Francis Ford Coppola told George that his problem was neglecting to emotionally involve the audience, it was reported (in the excellent film history Easy Riders, Raging Bulls) that George’s response to him and his own wife Marcia was: “Emotionally involving the audience is easy. Anybody can do it blindfolded, get a little kitten and have some guy wring its neck. I’m gonna show you how easy it is. I’ll make a film that emotionally involves the audience.” So the point is that it is easy to do this - but that quality writing doesn't need to strangle the kittens to get a response out of us.
Watch how he kills Alton Lannister and then how he describes it to Brienne. How do they make these mistakes?
First half of the episode was fine and I liked the Jon and Daenerys scene. Everything after that felt off though. Maybe it was the quick transition
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What the fck did I just watch? Started of with potential...then as soon as Drogon flew off with Dany....It turned into some of the most laughable tripe I've seen on TV.
I almost expected an ending like in Clue (or Wayne's World). Like "That's what COULD have happened, but here are two alternate endings!" It was alright, I guess, for fan fiction.
I posted about this before, but making Bran the new king is badly misunderstanding the character. But then you remember that none of these characters belong to B&W and it sort of makes a bit more sense how they can get such basic things wrong.
For those who have been defending the show this season... "Incompetence should not be rewarded with blind loyalty." --Varys Here are the IMDB ratings for each episode in season 8: Chaos truly is a ladder... to nowhere! I feel like Littlefinger should have lived to the end, he would thrive in this environment.
It was by far the worst episode of the entire run of the show. They show Grey Worm ruthlessly executing Lannisters for having the temerity of following their leader and fighting against his queen and yet were meant to believe he wouldn't have killed Jon and Tyrion for actually murdering his queen.