You do not have any clue about how the CONCACAF works. And I think that is a good thing. Just stick with your blind love of Peru.
Are you telling me that a bunch of little Islands in the Caribbean that are non existent in the world soccer stage, are holding hostage to the soccer federation of the most powerful country in the world? Are you for real? Why do you think the Gold Cup is played every in US soil only? This is economics 101.. Do you think the USSF needs more the Concacad than the Concacaf needs the USSF?
You are conflating the argument and discussion here. The CONCACAF would not allow the USA to send a good team to the Copa America. That is not up for debate.
Nobody is holding anyone hostage. CONCACAF had set the date for the tournament, CONMEBOL set their tournament overlapping, and that was that. Read the damn article I posted or STFU. Or do both.
So the concacaf has the ultimate power and the USSF is helpless? Please.. if the US was Cuba I would agree with you but no, the USSF belongs to a country with a lot of economic power and that is all you need to know. If you believe that the USSF federation has no leverage over the concacaf, then you are blind.
Stop with the BS questions that have been answered 5 times over. Read the article or admit you are trolling.
USA qualifies for 24 years straight while Peru is nowhere to be seen. *Crickets* Peru qualifies for the first time since 1982. "We are now and always better than you"
When you get 3 automatic spots and your 4th place gets to play in and your in the shitiest qualifying region excluding oceana ... you better qualify every time.
That is because we have to play against Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, etc.. I wish we played Cuba, Nicaragua, Guatemala, etc..
I wish COMEBOL and CONCACAF would merge. It would give us real competition and we could start improving our talent. Only issue would be qualifying for the World Cup.
Japan is taking a B-team to the Copa America, with only Tomiyasu, Shibasaki, and Ito from the A-team, and about five players from the C-team. Qatar, that won the AFC final 3-1 against Japan (mere coincidence that the finalists were exactly the teams that accepted the C-BOL invite) is going with their full A-team. Finally the picking of footballers in Africa plus a couple of Brazilians is paying for the Qataris. Shame the relationship C-BOL/C-CAF seems to have cooled down significantly. Some day we'll know exactly what went on for that Copa Centenario. There's something murky there.
There is? Is there some event or quote which leads you to say that? Or is that just suggestive speculation?
USSF cannot take unilateral action to play Copa America 2019. You forget current FIFA regulations which prohibit simultaneous participation in continental tournaments. USSF must play Copa Oro before any other tournament. Copa Oro must be played in 2019 because all other confederations are taking care of continental business in 2019. If everyone is else is busy, and FIFA does not allow you to play on simultaneous competitions, then you must focus on your continental tournament. Look at it this way: why would Concacaf cancel Copa Oro 2019 so that 2 Concacaf members can be invited to Copa America 2019? That would leave 14 out 16 Concacaf members without revenue during summer 2019. Let us hope that Peru can salvage something in 2019. Last I heard, FIFA took away Peru's rights to organize 2019 u17 WC, and Conmebol took away Peru's rights to organize Copa Sudamericana 2019 final match. You have my sympathy during these troubling times for Peru.
Obviously the COMEBOL is better than CONCACAF w/ respect to the number of good teams... and generally, their elite teams are better than ours... but they have 4.5 slots allocated for the WC and only have 10 total teams... in most years that means that 40% of the teams will make it. CONCACAF has too many teams to count... w/ 3.5 slots. Most of the years that is 3 teams. Now, there are only about 10 teams with a legit shot at making it... but on any given day you can be upset. In the end... uh... who am I kidding?.... The US would have a bear of a time trying to qualify in COMEBOL.
The GoldCup is orgnized by Concacaf, not by FIFA. What does this mean? It means that if Concafa decided to play the GoldCup on a different year than what Copa America is played, it would happen. Going foward, Copa America will be played on even years and it will be played every four years. The GoldCup can be played on an odd year if they wanted and the USMNT could participate in the Copa America. Can this be done? Oh sure it can if they want to.
Why should Concacaf schedule its main revenue source -Copa Oro- around a tournament which does not pay to Concacaf? Where is the monetary benefit for Concacaf by participating in CA 2019 / CA 2020? Remember that CA Centenario revenue was managed by Concacaf. Even today, Conmebol is asking Concacaf to pay money owed to Conmebol. So, where is the benefit for Concacaf? Last time in CA 2016, Mexico had to play with Jamaica, Uruguay, and Venezuela. What kind of crap group is that? And Concacaf has to pay money to Conmebol on top of that?
Are we ready to call this a troll yet, now that the entire PBP thread has been drawn into a completely irrelevant discussion responding to a ridiculous claim that USA should force CONCACAF to arrange everything so USA can play in Copa America because... a guy from Peru says?
Yeah. I was merely pointing out that we are lucky to be in CONCACAF w/ respect to qualifying for the WC. The COMEBOL is so small that they have to import two teams from other regions just to make it a tourney.... but it would still be way harder to make the top 4 or 5 than the top 3 or 4 in our region. The CONCACAF could easily stagger the GC so that two of its members could play in Copa America. Perhaps the US should worry about just being able to beat teams like Jamaica on their home soil before thinking about being part of that tourney. Ugh... I feel so myopic right now w/ respect to the current roster and head coach. Such a different feeling watching the U20 squad play in their respective WC.
I am taking about the USMNT's benefit, not concacaf. The only way the USMNT can improve is by playing against quality teams in the world. Not in friendly games, I am taking about official tournaments. Would you not want the USMNT to get this type of exposure? Where is the benefit? You do not see it?
The reports in the Latin American press about the money not being paid as it was stipulated. Plus the entire scandal around it, that ended with over a dozen people from C-BOL and C-CAF indicted. It's been kept hush-hush in the English sport press, but it's still making the rounds down South. Here's an example: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/not...eclama-cuentas-pendientes-de-2016-20193185415 Angry, because the USSF planned an international tournament (Continental Cup) with the CONMEBOL national teams on the same dates as the Copa America 2020, CONMEBOL's president, Alejandro Dominguez, expressed to the head of the USSF his surprise and worry about such decision, and reminded him that the USSF is still postponing the final accounting results from the Copa America Centenario 2016, according to info made available to Referi [Uruguayan sports mag]. Etc. The version in South America is that they're still waiting to see any money from the Copa Centenario, and they're worried they just got scammed ("again" they'd say) by the gringos. So no, nothing is happening.
I do not see the immediate benefit of a FIFA sanction against USSF. Concacaf already held qualifiers for Copa Oro 2019, that tournament could not be moved to 2020. Regarding training benefit from Copa America, I see it as insufficient for WC preparation. Reasons: - Success in a short competition does not guarantee success in WC qualifiers. Look at Chile (2015,2016), missed Russia 2018 despite being CA champion twice. Look at Paraguay (2011), reached the CA final match by tying 5 matches in a row. Paraguay ended up last in WC qualifiers for Brazil 2014. - CA 2019 is far away from Qatar 2022. USSF can do without a CA 2019 invitation. Japan knows it too. Instead of wasting time with its senior squad, Japan sent a u23 team which needs matches towards Tokyo 2020. - Last time USSF participated in CA 2016, it faced medium-tier teams, things got good only at the semifinal match (COL,CRC, PAR --> ECU --> ARG). Conmebol is desperate to make money with Copa America, and it sounds like it is overselling some of its benefits. Just look at who Conmebol managed to sign for 2020: Australia and Qatar.
USSF saved Conmebol's neck by organizing Copa Centenario 2016 with less than a year's notice. Conmebol had revenue problems after assets were frozen by the 2015 indictments of Concacaf+Conmebol+media executives. Conmebol could not pay CA 2015 prizes, thus the Chilean federation had to lend money to Conmebol. Conmebol was stuck with TV rights contracts, deemed useless after its 2015 scandal. USSF organized Copa Centenario to calm sponsors about Conmebol corruption within the 2016 tournament. USSF signed new TV rights contracts for Copa Centenario. Conmebol is not angry about a debt from 2016. Conmebol finds it unacceptable that USSF wants to host a 2020 cross-continental tournament: - host earns the most. USSF took $72M in revenue from Copa Centenario 2016, for example. - organizer decides revenue allocation. For 2020, USSF offered $90M for Conmebol and $74M for Concacaf... knowing that Conmebol brings 10 teams and Concacaf just 6 teams. Conmebol wants to protect its Copa America brand and keep control as organizer. USSF is fine with that. There are other ways to make money.