Future of the World - 1984 or Post-apocalyptic?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by minerva, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
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    Where are we headed?
    Totalitarianism, or anarchy?
    Perhaps it's too much to prognosticate on the future of the world, but what about the US?
    Where is the country headed?
    My guess is, most people will say that the weather will continue much the same as it has. Winds will freshen from the west...etc.
    But where do you see the country or the world in 10, 25, 50, 100+ years?
    Go on Nostro - tell us...
     
  2. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    How drunk are you?
     
  3. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
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    Maybe the ex has the kid this week.
     
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  4. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
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    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    En 50 años, el mundo entero estara hablando español. Y Chino. Un poco de Chino.
     
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  5. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

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    I've been told that we are already at Communism and Socialism. My guns have been taken from me (crap, never owned any-scary times we live in).
     
  6. minerva

    minerva Member+

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    I'm not saying I didn't enjoy a few adult beverages last night...
    That, and I was watching V for Vendetta. And yes, the ex has the child this weekend :)
     
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  7. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
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    Never really understood why a terrorist who wanted to blow up a bunch of people but most specifically a Protestant king just so he could install a Catholic queen became such a popular icon.
     
  8. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    We were very 'into' religious fundamentalism and associated terrorism at the time*. In fact, it's STILL not considered polite conversation to mention religion over here.


    * I hear it's made something of a comeback recently but I don't know the details. :confused:
     
  9. minerva

    minerva Member+

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    are we talking about the same movie? I missed the beginning of it, so perhaps I don't have the entire pic, but the movie I'm talking about is about a guy fighting against a 1984-style British government.
     
  10. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
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    The mask the guy was wearing was a Guy Fawkes (sp) mask. Fawkes was the one who tried to blow up Parliament.
     
  11. minerva

    minerva Member+

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    oh, okay. that makes sense.
     
  12. minerva

    minerva Member+

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    movies like that always get me thinking about our own society and the freedoms we enjoy - and wonder how long we will continue to enjoy them, especially with the rise of information technology and the information age.
     
  13. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Well, with the Protestant King in it more specifically but, yeah, that's the dude. Like I say, religious fundamentalism at it's finest.

    That's another reason I always laugh when people bang on about us living in a 'very different world after 9/11'.

    Er... if you say so mate :rolleyes:
     
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  14. ElJefe

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    Guy Fawkes was a religious terrorist. Period, end of story.

    So it amuses me when some twerp in the year 2012 wears a Guy Fawkes mask while advocating for the exact opposite things.
     
  15. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

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    Things will be surprisingly rosy .... Problems like poverty, war, crime and racism will be significantly reduced ...

    On the flip side we will be a lot more docile and conformed as people. We will also be much more artificial ... literally and spiritually
     
  16. Pauncho

    Pauncho Member+

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    If we were having this conversation in 1942 maybe the most defensible argument would be that one or the other flavor of totalitarianism was almost certain to triumph, and that even if it didn't, the depression would come right back as soon as the terrors of a world war ended. It's useful to remember that, when you assume today's trends will continue into a distant future.

    That said, it really is true the Big Picture future of humanity will be decided by the winner of the race between the Singularity and Downfall.

    These are terms used by futurists who test the line between science fiction and mere prediction. The Singularity is the time when a truly intelligent computer abruptly begins to come up with (presumably) technological answers to our most important problems, and we hope they're benign. Downfall is the term for a problem we can neither fix nor survive, presumably of our own making, like a plague of nanorobots that destroy all human life, or real climate/ecological catastrophe, or global thermonuclear war. This is the kind of stuff that makes a global credit market meltdown seem like a bump in the road. The people who make this argument really need to be listened to, because if they prophecy it will be a million and it only turns out to be a hundred, that's still a really big deal.
     
  17. guignol

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    Apr 28, 2005
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    a cross between rollerball and soylent green.
     
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  18. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Mmmmm... soylent green!!!!
     
  19. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
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    I'm in hiding ever since the black helicopters dropped into our neighborhood and rounded up all my neighbors to take them to the camps where they'll all be turned gay.
     
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  20. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
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    Well, yeah. But you have to admit it's a very awesome-looking mask. That has to count for something.
     
  21. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

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    [​IMG]
     
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  22. ratdog

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    Yeah but he's also the only person ever to enter Parliament with honest intentions.

    Arf arf.

    btw, the future will look more like (but not exactly the same as) the corporate neo-feudalism of a William Gibson story than either 1984 or "...Vendetta" because advertising and propaganda have gotten so much more sophisticated and slicker since the ham-fisted days of the 1930s.
     
  23. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
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    I'm thinking ((Rollerball + Soylent Green) x Planet of the Apes) + bollywood = future.
     
  24. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
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    So does this mean there will be a hot Rachel Welch or we will have to eat shitty food?
     
  25. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
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    count me in!

    the future is FUN! the future is FAIR! you may already have WON! you may already BE there!

    raQuel welch was in 1,000,000 years BC. which, no matter how you slice it, is NOT the future. not even for republicans.
     
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