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Discussion in 'France' started by soccer krazy, Jul 7, 2007.
heared Lyon and Monaco was linked to Mexes in early june
MOVE OUT THE FCUKING WAY HERES A SUPERSTAR !!!!
ONE OF THE BEST DEFENSE MIDFIELDERS
ALLEZ CHEVROLET !
Gignac scores and his team is in the final.
Mexes scored another special goal. Insane how he made connection as the ball was very high and he timed his jump perfectly.
Just saw it. Stunning goal, I could watch it on repeat all day
Philippe Mexès is a French player that's missing ALOT OF CAPS FOR FRANCE He's an amazing centerback that nevers gets a Fcuking call up
I SICK OF THE FFF affirmative action AKA racial quotas in France it makes me sick to my stomach !
Well he didn't suit the stars alignment for crazy Raymond. And he played in Italy which he hated. The same happened to the fantastic Seba Frey.
Menez Giuly Frey Mexes Trezeguet
Just to name a few
Are you implying astrology is not a suitable tool for selecting players?
do you have some proof of this?
No proof just seems like it
Frey gave up
mexes was unlucky .. i think playing in italy is disadvantage unless if u play for juventus. there seems to be favoritism towards epl players and la liga.. for example , any arsenal french player makes the teams...
Mexes was a disaster whenever he played for Les Bleues. No affirmative action needed to dump him out of the team.
yes, I felt bad for him at the time but everyone got their chance and he chewed his into a slobbery mess.
menez got all the chance he deserved too, he diddled himself out of a spot.
frey didn't get much of a look, but it's different with keepers. and his statements hurt him more than his blunder.
I seem to remember trez' attitude not helping his case either.
giuly, flamini... never got much of a chance but neither ever seemed indispensable to me.
My take on Serie A stars is this:
I don't feel that Flamini ever had the talent deserving to get on the national team. At almost every point, there were better players ahead of him, and defensive midfield has been a position of mostly strength in the last decade. Flamini arguably had his best seasons at Arsenal, but he seemed more of a system player than one who was good individually on his own.
Mexes deserved to get called up at least to Euro 2008 and World Cup 2010, I felt. At that time he was among the elite (or near-elite, top 5 at least) central defenders in Serie A, and let's face it, he was a better defender than, say, Marc Planus or his old Auxerre teammate Jean-Alain Boumsong. But at Euro 2008 the Thuram-Gallas pairing was well-established (even if it Thuram would prove over the hill, it still seemed right at that moment to keep them together since they were so good at WC 06), and at WC 2010 Domenech wanted to incorporate Abidal at center back, which didn't seem the worst idea (even though it turned out poorly). So really Mexes deserved spots on the 23-man rosters, though a starting position? As others have said, whenever he got the chance, he didn't play well and more importantly, didn't seem on the same page as the central defense partner he was paired with.
Menez had his opportunity (Euro 2012). Wasted talent. The end product was sadly always lacking, as well as the attitude.
Giuly should have been picked for Euro 2004, and arguably WC 2006 as well. But by the time he got to Serie A he was on the decline.
The two who arguably deserved a better fate, I believe, are:
When he wanted to show it, Frey showed some incredible talent as a goalkeeper. Though as guignol said, what he said and the way he acted counted against him, and he always had a quirky personality. Yes, so did Barthez but Fabien had the palmares of WC and Euro winner. On the other hand Frey wanted things handed to him. And arguably the one time it seemed the national team gloves were about to be handed to him, some guy named Hugo Lloris became a force. So really the succession, except for one tournament (Euro 2008), was as it should be: Barthez to Lloris. Then why is he in the "snubbed" column? Because he deserved better recognition than what he ultimately got. In the past decade, I truly believe he was at least among the best 3 French goalkeepers at multiple junctures. So he should have made more than one major tournament, even if it'd be as a backup.
Trezeguet, if he was willing to be a backup, was truly overlooked at both Euro 2008 and, arguably WC 2010 as well, but definitely at the former. The reason that I feel this way is that he would seem a great player to bring on at the 60th or 70th minute to bag a goal to settle or tie a match if one was trailing. He's the least wasteful of the attackers we had, and while he is so frustrating to watch when he isn't getting service (we saw that at Euro 2004), when you need a goal, is there anyone else you would rather have?
Anyway, for the present, other than Paul Pogba, Evra and possibly Kingsley Coman if he comes on strong this season, is there any other Serie A Frenchman deserving of a call-up? Kalidou Koulibaly? Not unless they add a basketball element to the game since height is the only thing he brings. M'Baye Niang? Looked a possibility in 2012-13 though he has stagnated and doesn't seem ready. You can group Mexes, Rami, Yanga-Mbiwa, Heurtaux, etc. in the same basket: decent defenders who have no shot of displacing the current batch of young central defenders we have: Zouma, Varane, Mangala, Lucas Hernandez, Umtiti, Laporte. Biabiany? Too old (27, which isn't that old although will he be getting much better?) and one trick pony (speed).
So overall, even though Serie A at its peak was where many of our greatest players plied their trade, from Platini to Papin to Zidane to Thuram to Trezeguet to Pogba, I don't think we've overlooked that many. Let's hope Kingsley Coman gets a lot of time this season and makes it to Euro 2016
Frey should have been starting ahead of the brainfart barthez though, he was always a better keeper. For a long time the only name ahead of him in Italy was Buffon. Mexes and Rami had a good thing going heading into the Euros during qualfyimg. Shame the whole teams form seemed to suffer right before the tournament.
It's pretty evident no one has gotten freezed out of the national team because they're white . The most ridiculous bit of bullshit I've read on these forums in a while.
Haven't seen you in awhile
I back, Mon frere!
Bud there's tons of bleurs and noirs on the French national team that sucks sso bad it's a ccrime wait until our Next selection I will point them out like always do
There have been plenty of players over the years that have been called up that I didn't were international caliber. Plenty, beur, noir, blanc. Singling out the minorities does nothing to prove your assertion that they are only there because they are a minority. It could be that Deschamps thinks that they're the best he's got at the moment, even if they are exactly world beaters. And frankly, it's LAUGHABLE to suggest that France, FRANCE, would go out of its way to include more noirs and beurs than would be required on merit.
In another news, Sunderland have signed Yann M'Vila on a season-long loan from Rubin Kazan lol.
what a wasted i liked M'vila