The MLS Stadium Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by fairfax4dc, May 20, 2016.

  1. Nidal Baba Superstar

    Sep 20, 2006
    Far away
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hm, maybe they make him a mod?

    Dunno. Never run into anything like that before.
     
  2. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Official preliminary planning documents for Providence Park expansion.

    https://www.portlandoregon.gov/bds/article/633576

    They're asking to build four new levels and a roof. An addition of 2000 premium seats, 2000 regular seats, and a full canopy (info from a now deleted tweet from the team owner).
     
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  3. whiteonrice04

    whiteonrice04 Member+

    Sep 8, 2006
    Four new levels? Please explain.
     
  4. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The seats on that side of the stadium are below ground level, I believe.

    [​IMG]

    I'm guessing they want to add a deck of regular seats and three levels of corporate boxes at the back.
     
  5. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updates from downtown Los Angeles

     
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  6. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    So now this thread is about four cities, three teams and three new stadia, right?

    Any new pron?
     
  7. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or four cities, four teams and four new stadia.

    LAFC, DC United, MinnU and Atlanta.
     
  8. BigData

    BigData Member+

    Feb 2, 2014
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    I feel so sad to be out of the loop.
     
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  9. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    In your smoke bomb section, with cupholders...
     
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  10. BigData

    BigData Member+

    Feb 2, 2014
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Well, ok, but aside from that...
     
  11. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    D.C. Has a still image webcam up and LAFC have a live webcam.

    I'm pretty sure Atlanta does as well but since it is an NFL stadium no one here actually cares.

    Not sure what is going on in MN.

    James
     
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  12. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    I think if I were John Thorrington I'd rather eat a gun than read or listen to this bullshit again and again.

    Seriously he must be doing some drunken violent tai chi in front of his office mirror by now.
     
  14. fairfax4dc

    fairfax4dc Member+

    Dec 5, 2008
    Fairfax, Va
  15. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

    MLS
    Nov 5, 2004
    Denver or NOLA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Neutral fans and all of ATL disagree. Other leagues use turf. It is their stadium too. It is being built for soccer.
     
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  16. fairfax4dc

    fairfax4dc Member+

    Dec 5, 2008
    Fairfax, Va
    I don't think it's true that neutral fans would agree that having artificial turf is consistent with "built for soccer". The new Atlanta stadium seems like a fine facility, but my point is that it's a different animal than the soccer specific stadiums being built around the league, which in this thread we compare and contrast. With the blessing of huge fan support comes the curse of having to play on artificial turf in a 70-80K stadium.
     
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  17. whiteonrice04

    whiteonrice04 Member+

    Sep 8, 2006
    #667 whiteonrice04, Apr 25, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2017
    I really hope with the response Atlanta is getting fan wise with 55k for the first game, 45k for second and 45k sold out 6 days in advance for their 3rd that the ownership will at least look into some sort of grass solution. Even if they used grass for the half of the season before NFL season starts. At the level of response they are getting I would think they could justify the cost.

    I know it is still early but with 45k being sold with 6 days left until the game they could definitely see NFL level attendance numbers. I would think they could have easily sold 60k for this game. Obviously the current demand is well over 45k per game.

    It may be wishful thinking, and yes I know it is easy to spend other people's money.

    They were at least at some point in the design phase of that stadium considering grass. I know it is really hard with the almost complete dome, but it is done other places in the world. I know it comes with a cost though.
     
  18. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The problem with this is that the Mercedes-Benz Stadium is replacing the Georgia Dome, which in addition to being a home for ~15-20 football games a year, was used pretty regularly during the year as a very large convention hall and arena.
     
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  19. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Also it's indoors. I know retractible roof and all, but I am pretty sure the roof will be closed most of the time.
     
  20. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, yes. That's the reason why it and its soon-to-be-demolished neighbor have gotten all the non-football use that they have gotten.
     
  21. whiteonrice04

    whiteonrice04 Member+

    Sep 8, 2006
    #671 whiteonrice04, Apr 25, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2017
    I know all of the things above and stated some of them. All stated they were considering grass at some point. It is not impossible to have grass in such a venue. It is however very costly.
    That is why I said it was wishful thinking.

    Edit: maybe I am wrong about them considering grass in the beginning. I thought I remember reading that but can't find it now.
     
  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whether they are considering it or not, it is technologically feasible to have grass indoors.. The bigger European clubs
     
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  23. whiteonrice04

    whiteonrice04 Member+

    Sep 8, 2006
    They are not currently. I thought they were in the beginning stages but can't find any proof. I remember it being discussed here on b.s. and there being an uproar when the eventually decided on turf.

    But yes you are making the same point as what I said earlier. It can be done...at a price.

    Phoenix cardinals dome does it with a field that rolls out of the stadium.
     
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  24. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...out in Glendale. Mercedes-Benz Stadium is in downtown Atlanta, where real estate is slightly more expensive.
     
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  25. whiteonrice04

    whiteonrice04 Member+

    Sep 8, 2006
    I wasn't saying they could do it in Atlanta. Just giving an example of it being done in the us. Glendale also doesnt have a retractable roof.
    I fully understand it isn't going to happen.
     

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