For you guys what were the 5 SNUB in the World Cup (USA only)?

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  1. Pedro Rondon H de Sá

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jan 13, 2014
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. Pedro Rondon H de Sá

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jan 13, 2014
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll start my list .

    1. Landon Donovan ( 2014 World Cup )
    2. Sacha Kljestan ( 2010 World Cup )
    3. Maybe Jeff Agoos 1994 and Dooley 1990
    4. Razov or Kreis 2006 ?
    5. Bert Patenaude and Jimmy Doulas ( 1930 World Cup )
     
  3. saxman

    saxman Member

    Nov 12, 2005
    Frederick,Maryland
    Desmond Armstrong. 1994
     
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  4. Pedro Rondon H de Sá

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jan 13, 2014
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I forgot John Harkes (1998 World Cup )
     
  5. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm confused in the opening you state, "Note: Players who were cut or vetoed by injury can not be on the list."

    Donovan was cut but you have him on your list.
     
  6. Pedro Rondon H de Sá

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jan 13, 2014
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I meant that players cut by injury can not be on the list.
     
  7. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Kasey Keller in 94
     
  8. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why are Patenaude and Douglas on your list? They weren't snubbed. They each played all three games in the 1930 World Cup.
     
  9. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hugo Perez 1990 and Landon Donovan 2014, nothing else compares.
     
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  10. Pedro Rondon H de Sá

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jan 13, 2014
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After I saw that Douglas retired in 1931. Listed can put players who played in a World Cup.


    My final list

    1. Landon Donovan ( 2014 )
    2. John Harkes ( 1998 )
    3. Jeff Agoos ( 1994 )
    4. Sacha Kljestan ( 2010 and 2014)
    5. Steve Snow ( 1994 )


    Note: If Kasey Keller was named to the 1994 World Cup and 2010 he will go down in history as the American president that participate in World Cups.
     
  11. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Surely that's not why Keller was left off the 94 roster, right?
     
  12. PhillyandBCEagles

    Jul 9, 2012
    NC
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Chemistry means something. And if a guy is fxcking a teammate's wife you can't have him on the team, no matter how talented he is. I was a huge Sampson critic at the time and I still don't think he was a great coach, but he was in an impossible situation especially in that respect, kicking Harkes off the team was his only play. That's why I never bought the rumor about Jeff Carter fxcking Scott Hartnell's wife, they played together for a year and a half after the rumor was public, never would have happened if it was true.
     
  13. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That dirtbag was rightfully left off the roster.
     
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  14. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roy Lassiter (1998)

    Did we really even know Tom Dooley was US-eligible in 1990?
     
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  15. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Robin Fraser, 1994,1998. The guy was very good.
     
  16. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    no
     
  17. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is my list (1-5) in order:

    1. Landon Donovan 2014 (one day we may know the entire story)

    2. Hugo Perez 1990, and he may have been injured.

    3. Brian Ching 2010 a major surprise, as he had been key here in qualifiying, playing in 11 qualifiers.
    (note: one of the all time classic Big Soccer moments was when a poster reported he saw a melancholy looking Ching, apparently headed back to Houston at the Hartford airport. The cut list had not atm been officially released.)

    4. Ricky Davis, 1990, one of the very good players during the dark ages, Gansler decided against indoor pros.

    5. Eddie Johnson, 2010, 2014, yep Eddie got it twice.

    Anyway, here is the snub by cup list, chronologically

    1990, Hugo Perez, Ricky Davis
    1994, Kasey Keller (and I believe Sommer was better than Keller, at the time), Desmond Armstrong
    1998: John Harkes*, John O'Brien, Roy Lassiter
    2002:Tim Howard,Anton Razov
    2006: Taylor Twellman, Jay DeMerit,
    2010: Brian Ching, Eddie Johnson
    2014: Donovan, Feilhaber (we could have used the spark off the bench), Ream
     
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  18. Lothar is 1

    Lothar is 1 Member+

    Oct 21, 1999
    John Harkes was rightly left off the squad. We didn't know what behavior occured at the time, but we knew something happened, because you don't just throw the captain off for no reason.

    The bigger snub was sitting Lalas all the games and sitting Balboa for all but the dying moments of the World Cup, eventhough those two had been the key cornerstones of the team.
     
  19. Lothar is 1

    Lothar is 1 Member+

    Oct 21, 1999
    This saves me writing my own list, as it pretty much sums it up. A few guys here or there, like Jeff Cunningham, Michael Parkhurst, etc. come to mind, but this is fair to say.

    However, to truly address the title of the thread...

    Landon Donovan was not even the first World Cup Snub of this World Cup, that goes to Eddie Johnson.

    Clarence Goodson and Michael Orozco-Fiscal have huge arguments for being snubbed this World Cup and Edu as well.
     
  20. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    But his penis was very much in evidence in the run up to the WC 1998
     
  21. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Of course we now do. Google it. He was doing Wynalda's wife as the team got ready for the tournament. Everyone except Harkes has now admitted that was the issue. I was very critical of Sampson at the time and it returns out he was 100% correct. I am no prude but that is flatly unacceptable behavior, from the Captain no less.
     
  22. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He had never been capped by Germany and he'd been a dual US-German citizen for his entire life, so why wouldn't he have been eligible? But I wonder whether we can call him a snub. Had he expressed a desire to play for the United States in 1990? I think he was still hoping to play for Germany at that point.
     
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  23. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I don't see EJ as being snubbed. He wasn't scoring going into the camp. His move to DC failed to get him scoring and ready for camp selection. He did play a role in qualifying but that was all. I honestly didn't expect him to be named to the roster. In 2010 he scored a few goals in Greece and only got a call-up because we barely had any strikers. We had Jozy, Findley, EJ, Ching, Buddle, Gomez and Casey. Buddle and Gomez were on form right during the selection of the WC. Ching was his usual self. Casey wasn't scoring. Findley, he was fast and Bradley prefered a poor man's Davies as opposed to no Davies at all. EJ had his shot in the '06 WC.

    I doubt he gets any more NT call-ups. Boyd, Iceman, Agudelo and loads more are the way to go.
     
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  24. Lothar is 1

    Lothar is 1 Member+

    Oct 21, 1999
    Yes, but that doesn't apply to what I was saying. I also think there was far more to criticize Sampson over. Not taking Lassiter was a big one. Benching Lalas and Balboa in favor of Dooley and Regis was another. Trying to replace Harkes with Deering adds yet another.

    I also think that if that was the issue then when he dismissed Harkes he should've come out and said he let him go for conduct that was unbecoming of a teammate, or something else that would've made it clear that something occured, rather than skirting the issue and making it seem like it was based off his performance or a coaching decision. He mishandled that whole situation, and calling him Captain for Life also set that up to be the case. Why would you call someone that?
     
  25. PhillyandBCEagles

    Jul 9, 2012
    NC
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Shxt, Deering wasn't as bad as Maisenouve.

    Except it isn't really any of our business in this case. My guess would be that Wynalda asked him to handle it in the manner that he did.
     

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