Football Manager, Part I

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  1. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    Thanks for answering my questions. Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh before.

    You're right that I don't know how difficult it is to just download the tactic. I'm used my own since I started playing football mgmt sims but I've tested a few when I was betatesting and some clearly went beyond "solid tactics" and into just cheating. I do know from reading the forums that many new SI players who couldn't even get a win with ManU or Arsenal are suddenly on 20 game unbeaten streaks after downloading these cheats. These are people who don't even seem to understand the basics of tactics and half of them don't even understand the sliders. So maybe its not quite as tough as you make it sound? :D

    I do know that there were some tactics available for previous versions that exploited holes in the game's matchengine to make teams basically unbeatable. There are training systems and cheats that can make any player with any potential into a surefire world class star in a season or two. Those are the kind of cheats that bug me since it seems to defeat the fun of playing the game. I guess I can understand new players downloading a tactic or two just to get an idea of some realistic combinations of positions and instructions.
     
  2. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    I usually try a really big club (in my case almost always Arsenal for obvious reasons) when a new CM/FM game comes out and after a game or two lasting a few seasons I start new games at lower clubs. I use the games with the big club just to get a feel for the new game and bug finding (plus there is a bit of fun in seeing Arsenal do a treble and quad even if it was way too easy) but the games at the big clubs get old really fast.

    I then usually go for a switch and take over a lower league club. My current favorite is Haarlem in the bottom Dutch league (their lowest in FM but nowhere near as low down the rung as the bottom of some other countries) although I have tried clubs at the bottom of most of the big European leagues. These clubs have some rather severe built in limits (in Haarlem's case it is a 3000 seat stadium, no money, and few fans) so I just aim at getting them promoted and then I move after a season or two at the top level because I'm not getting into europe unless its with a fluke cup win and I can do enough to keep the team up without too much trouble (and thus not much fun).

    I then pick from a few quite fun mid-level clubs ranging from Wolves, R.Antwerp, or Le Havre to bigger challenges lower down like Carlisle United or Swansea City. I enjoy getting the better midlevel ones promoted fast enough to get to their domestic top level while most of today's stars are still in their prime and then pushing them onto Europe.
     
  3. CCSoccer000

    CCSoccer000 New Member

    Apr 30, 2005
    Alexandria, Kentucky
    Re: Football Manager

    didnt everybody here know that you can buy Fifa 2005 and play the actuall games your self then if you have football manager you can transfer you record from Fifa to the football manager then manage your team. Its just as easy and your in control of both playing and managing your team.
     
  4. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    I think you are thinking of Total Club Manager from EA Sports.
     
  5. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    also known as FM for Dummies...or should we save that name for the new CM game? :D
     
  6. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    Totally FM Light.

    Question Cannon, do you know if players in Spain get resident status after a couple seasons? I feel like I have a couple players who were considered foreigners and are no longer.
     
  7. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    Is that new CM5 game out? Or has anyone played it? I hate to ask here but I'd like to know.
     
  8. kjo199

    kjo199 Member

    Mar 29, 2005
    NYC
    Re: Football Manager

    Although i would not necessarily buy it, I was wondering if the 2006 version of Total Club Manager from EA Sports is expected to be released in the U.S. , as i believe this past years version has not been released in the U.S. I hear that FM/WWSM is better but i would like to know my options. Thanks for the help.
     
  9. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    I haven't played in Spain in the current version and I know there were weird problems (instant change, never changing, etc) with nationality in some earlier versions but I think they've been sorted so you should expect players to get the new citizenship.

    It has been out for at least a month. I saw some pretty bad reviews of it but I haven't played it myself. Knowing that they were creating the game from scratch and only retaining the name and visual look to the old CM game, I decided to skip the new CM. I've heard that they have included a few new ideas (the way scouting is implemented for example) that could be interesting but that the overall game is very poor especially the match engine. In most people's minds, FM is the real sequel to CM03/04 while the new CM is the start of a new football mgmt sim series.
     
  10. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    So it is your understanding that a foreign player will become a citizen of the country if there for long enough?
     
  11. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    Chelsea's 33 match unbeaten streak was just snapped 1-2 by Middlesbrough.
    But my spirits were boosted when Fernando Torres just rejected Atletico's latest offer and decided to sign with Chelsea for next season on a free :)
     
  12. iansfavouritecopilot

    Jun 21, 2002
    Hartlepool, UK
    Re: Football Manager

    Seen it happen. 3 seasons for Robinho @ Barca. :cool:
     
  13. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    Yeah, that is a great rule. Ronaldinho is no longer a foriegner.
     
  14. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    I'm leaving for work late, it's ok my boss is gone, because I wanted to wrap up season 2007/2008. I just capped off the double at Barca, winning the European Championship and the league. In one fail swoop I took home $28 million bringing my season profits to $110 million. I found a jewel in Argentina named Leonardo Pisculichi. He is a left forward and comanded a spot in my midfield once signed. After 22 games my $5 million midseason purchase had a 8.30 rating and won 5 MOM awards. Ronaldinho had another amazing season, scoring 23 and creating 15 in only 35 games. South American world cup qualifying and some injuries limited his time. Javier Saviola had 20 goals in 28 games.

    I am now firmly in the Spanish Hall of Fame with 220 points from 2 Domestic Titles, 1 Major European Trophy and 3 Major Domestic Cups. I am slowly sneaking up on the Contenintal hall. This in a 4 year career.

    Time to get to my real job.
     
  15. diplomatique

    diplomatique New Member

    Mar 29, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Re: Football Manager

    Could someone tell me where on earth I can find FM 2005? I've been trying to get my hands on FM for over a year with no luck.

    Amazon.com lists it, and I ordered it back in Feb. However, they just recently e-mailed me to let me know it had not come in stock and they were cancelling my order.

    Amazon.co.uk won't let anyone in America buy the game.

    The EBGames stores in my state keep telling me the game doesn't exist. I sincerly believe they are starting to think I am clinically insane because I'm the only girl I've ever seen in my local EB store and I keep asking about a game they seem sure is simply a figment of my imagination.

    Anyone out there able to help me?

    Oh, before you ask (and people have asked) I do know that in the States, the game is called Worldwide Soccer Manager.
     
  16. diplomatique

    diplomatique New Member

    Mar 29, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Re: Football Manager

    Four Four Two magazine (the May edition) has a review of the both CM5 and FM2005, and apparently CM5 is out. FFT ranked FM2005 higher. Most of the CM staff went over to FM so FFT thinks that FM is better.
     
  17. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Re: Football Manager

    Actually, FM (SI Games) is the same people who made all previous CM games. They split with Eidos, who kept the name CM.
     
  18. diplomatique

    diplomatique New Member

    Mar 29, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Re: Football Manager

    That's what I was saying. Eidos owned CM, SI split with Eidos, Eidos kept the name, SI kept the people and made FM. Essentially, the people who made CM are now making FM. Which is why FFT thinks FM is better.
     
  19. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    diplomatique, if you want FM 05 you'll probably do best on ebay. If you want Worldwide Soccer Manager 2005 you can order it from gamestop.com. WWSM is the American version. The game is the same, just the name is branded for the States.
     
  20. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    My World Class manager status has opened up some new doors. Argentina approached me to guide them through WC 2010 qualifying. Then Liverpool fired Rafa Benitez so I applied and got the job. I'm going to leave Spain and try my hand in England. Making the switch midseason is a little tough but I'm ready for some different surroundings.

    Liverpool here I come.
     
  21. diplomatique

    diplomatique New Member

    Mar 29, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Re: Football Manager

    Just ordered it today and expect it to arrive in the next couple of days. When I get it . . . what should I do? Do I need to download updates or anything?
     
  22. ibreak4coffee

    ibreak4coffee Member

    Jul 27, 2004
    New York
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Re: Football Manager

    Definitely download the latest patch (WWSM 5.0.3 or FM 5.0.3). It fixes a series of bugs, and lets you start with updated rosters.
     
  23. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    Well, I've played my first few games as Liverpool's boss and things have been going well. Landon Donovan is one of my star forwards and he slots into my tactic developed at Barca nicely. I think the attacking form of soccer will turn the Premier League a little upside down. I'm also looking for success in the Euro Cup and domestic cups.

    Hey Liverpool...Hey Liverpool...Hey Liverpool...
     
  24. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    Donovan is at Liverpool in my game, too. He's a stud for them.
     
  25. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Football Manager

    Actually 5.05 is the current FM version. I don't know if they ever released that fix for WWSM. If not then, I'd suggest getting FM and not WWSM.

    BTW, there is a bug with managers getting worldclass status too early. They are looking at fixing it for FM06.
     

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