Football in the UK and Ireland season 2019/20

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by shlj, Jul 9, 2019.

  1. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    ///United's two best chances were clear cut, well created, and better than almost all of Arsenal's chances. Ladd also had a half chance.//

    United's first chance was clear cut, to be sure--but I'm not sure about the second. I thought the Arsenal keeper simply made a good save. I'd have to look at the play again.

    As for Arsenal's chances, Miedema's header was certainly not right at Earp. She had to make a desperate, reaching stab save with her left arm as that ball was going in the net.

    This game was another illustration of how hard it can be to score against a well-organized team that sits back. ManU had a lot of people behind the ball, and that always makes it tough for even excellent ball-moving/passing teams like Arsenal. Stoney is a good, demanding manager and by next year, with what I guess will be the addition of another attacking talent or two, they will be formidable.
     
  2. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    Which is why I said most of Arsenal’s chances.

    Ross’ was still clear cut to me. First, a better touch there gives her a better angle, and that’s on her. Second, the angle was still decent, it was a 1 vs 1 with no defender on her, and chipping was even an option. Agree to disagree.
     
  3. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Arsenal were tired and lack sharpness against an excellent defensive unit. Credit to Stoney because besides Earps those defenders are individually not excellent but as a unit are excellent and well driven.



    Everton top of the table is a big surprise, Liverpool and Birmingham with bristol might be the ones fighting for relegation, United will swiftly climb towards the top five.
     
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  4. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    Seems like some people don't think Earps is all that great at times either. I think M. Turner and McManus have had solid/really solid starts to the season, and A. Turner was good last night defensively while also creating a great chance for Ross. Maybe it is Casey's system, but I think you're underrating Man Utd's defenders a little.
     
  5. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I think Mary Earps is good on her line and quite explosive as well. For the rest of her game she is ok. And the United defenders, they are good but nothing else, McManus is error prone, a couple of them are slow. But they are very cohesive as a unit and very hard to break.
     
  6. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Continental Cup ( league Cup) this week-end





    Groups are unbalanced : A has 1 FA WSL and 5 Championship teams, B has 3 and 3, C has 4 and 1 and D has 4 and 2.

    Top two teams go through to quarter-finals. Group A is a gimme for Liverpool but they might still f up.
     
  7. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Do we know why the groups are so imbalanced? Like, is it geography or something? (I don't know my English geography well) Or just some really bad RNG results?
     
  8. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    The reason is part geographical and part because the FA don't know how to organize balanced groups. It was the same last year, they had Reading who are on the West side of England in one of the Northern Division group...
     
  9. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Does anyone REALLY care about the Conti Cup? It just seems another unnecessary competition. I suppose some smaller/mid-size clubs can get motivated for it, but for the bigger clubs ... who needs it?
     
  10. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    #85 shlj, Sep 25, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2019
    It is useful to give game time to the players who have not got any so far this season. It was originally a demand from the clubs when the FA WSL was created back in 2011 because there were only 8 clubs and the league season was 14 games long. Plus the FA Cup that lasted one game long for some clubs.

    The winners list ( no cup in 2017 as the season moved from Summer League to Winter League)

    Arsenal 2011.2012, 2013, 2015, 2018
    Manchester City 2014, 2016, 2019,
     
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  11. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    Who needs it? The league season is 22 games, and even with the FA Cup, that pales in comparison to the number of matches the top men's teams play. Man Utd Women (and I'm assuming the other teams as well) largely have two/three league matches a month throughout the season; I'd welcome additional matches if I was an FA WSL player.
     
  12. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Ha: My response is that the men play WAY too many matches--an absurd number--more than 60 for some teams/players. But then any popular professional sports league--with private owners--is going to suck every dollar/euro/peso out of fans/sponsors/broadcast networks that it can--and that usually involves more and more games. In the U.S., the Major League Baseball season lasts about 9 months--162 games! It was originally just a summer sport! Of course, another way to expand revenues is to play more competitions (Conti Cup!) and expand the playoffs--you see a lot of that, too. In the National Hockey League, half of the teams in the league make the playoffs! Absurd. The National Football League has a grueling 16-game season--very hard on the players, most of whom are very underpaid in a sport in which careers are short--and yet has been trying hard in recent years to gin up support for an 18-game season...And so it goes.

    As for the soccer women, when you add in Champions League games, which can potential mean an extra, what? 8 games to the season, along with Euro qualifiers, NT friendlies, World Cup qualifers, a significant number of the women are already playing a lot of matches. I just don't think the Conti Cup has much real significance besides it offering another trophy to the winner.
     
  13. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #88 hotjam2, Sep 28, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2019
    here's a replay of Man City/Reading league match from a dew weeks ago. Glad to see Pauline Bremer. For those in the not know; Bremer was a spectacular fwd in the u20 WC a while back only to get her career sidetracked by a horrendous injury that's taken two years to finally get her back into her prime. She's the league's temp. goal scoring leader but will most lilely loose her starting spot wants Ellen White returns from injury.
    Even when White does comeback, I still don't think they got a strong enough lineup to match up with Arsena)(who finally got back Miedema, Nobbs & Walti in their last match, though Kemme is missing)
     
  14. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Man Utd v Liverpool live right now on the FA Player, nearly half-time and 0-0
     
  15. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    United 2 Liverpool 0

    First three FA WSL points for United who go away from the relegation zone.
    Bad times for Liverpool with 0 point in three in the League plus a home defeat to a Championship side in the Cup.
     
  16. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    An interesting statistic, goals per game as really low : 1,16 for matchday 1 and 1,5 for matchday 2.

    Defenses have improved with professional football for all as well as fitness as team now don't collapse physically in the last 15-20 minutes like before.
     
  17. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    Yeah, I just think we disagree on it being an absurd number. I mean only two teams in England play in the Champions League, so that doesn’t impact ten other teams, and even adding everything up, I just don’t think the schedule’s overly rough. Agree to disagree.
     
  18. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    I read recently that Daly Blind started 61 games last year! THAT, in a physically demanding sport, is crazy. I think that was the number--it was in the 60s!
     
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  19. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    The United fans have started to show their true face. They have been antagonising supporters from every other clubs on social media for a while and now this:



    plus this :

     
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  20. Ethan Frank

    Ethan Frank Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Jun 11, 2019
    Their true face? That’s a bit of a gross generalization. The supporters I’ve come across on social media aren’t antagonizing and seem like truly good, genuine supporters with an acceptable amount of rivalry (not antagonizing) with other fans. Action definitely needs to be taken against any involved fans, but there’s no need to lump everyone in with a group of terrible fans.
     
  21. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Indeed it is a small minority, but they have been around since last year and were obnoxious to a certain point so far...
     
  22. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    A few writers have called out the practices from the United fans the Times, the Athletic, the Telegraph writer got told she has an agenda against United ...

    Sunday's results



    Birmingham v Reading postponed due to waterlogged pitch :ROFLMAO:

    And the table



    Liverpool are in a negative spiral with 4 defeats in 4 in all competition. Arsenal and City doing the business and Chelsea trailing them by two points.

    After the international break it will be Chelsea v Arsenal a huge game for the title.
     
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  23. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    over 75K tickets sold for the England/Germany friendly on Nov 9th at Wembley(hopefully that's paying customers, lol)
    England women set for record 75,000 crowd against Germany - BBC Sport

    heads up for the English for showing such interest in woso despite not getting the results they wanted at the WC. On the other hand, hard to find German fans anymore after their squad got shot down in the last couple of major tournaments & as well so many star players have left their domestic league.
    But I do feel in player development, Germany's future looks brighter; they lost a close Euro u19 final to France even though their top youth players were missing, & out of the ashes of the ailing Bundesliga, comes out Hoffenheim, with zero NT's but playing the best of both worlds; German/BMW precision passing with Americqn, in your face/direct attacking style, keeps slaughtering opponents with impressive scores & sits currently in 2nd place in league standings. Heralding quite a lot of new impressive players, the one that sticks out to me is Tabea Wassmuth, an attractive, speedy striker who could be their next Birgit Prinz, but reminds a heck lot more of Alex Morgan.. Perhaps if they can market Tabea like Alex's good girl, bad girl vibe? Get her to beat up a security guard, become a bikini or Nike model, write horrible children books,,,,then she'l be as famous as she's as talented as Alex!

    In the meantime, Phil Neville is still boasting on how great Lucy Bronze is(would this be to make the other players on the squad more jealous?) while still playing the slowish/underwhelming style of getting the ball to the lone striker,
     
  24. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Yes they are paying and now they are not playing the style you are mentioning...
     
  25. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    not getting a good live stream, but at least it's one. Neville's squad allready down 0-1, when will this guy ever win? lol
     

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