News: Flight carrying Chapecoencse in accident

Nacional Tijuana · Nov 29, 2016

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/flight...4cGh1BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

Dage · Nov 29, 2016

What a tragedy.

SupaMario · Nov 29, 2016

They've pulled 6 survivors. Let's all hope there will be much more.

Hendrixforpope · Nov 29, 2016

"Que a partida mais difícil da história da Chapecoense termine com uma vitória de 81x0"

Whispered11 · Nov 29, 2016

76 deaths out 81 people on the plane.
Tragic.
And it'd be more tragic to know that disaster could have been avoided.

jmartin1966 · Nov 29, 2016

Like Grande Torino. How horrible.

Mengão86 · Nov 29, 2016

I'm in shock. So ********ing horrible. This was supposed to be a moment of great joy. The biggest two games in club history. Words can't express how devastating this is.

celito · Nov 29, 2016

This is such terrible news. Chapecoense have been such a good story. They were living a dream.

Former player and FOX Sports commentator Mario Sergio was also on board.

RIP

NotreDameFlamengo · Nov 29, 2016

This is so sad

Suren01 · Nov 29, 2016

RIP

Rattlehead · Nov 29, 2016

What a terrible news... RIP

MerlinRM · Nov 29, 2016

RIP to the dead. I'm in complete shock right now. Prayers to the family.

John McGuirk · Nov 29, 2016

Such a terrible tragedy. Thoughts and prayers.

msilverstein47 · Nov 29, 2016

Whispered11 said: ↑

76 deaths out 81 people on the plane.
Tragic.
And it'd be more tragic to know that disaster could have been avoided.
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heard that the pilots had advised the tower about an electrical emergency onboard

nicklaino · Nov 29, 2016

Jesus that is terrible my condolences to their families.

Mengão86 · Nov 29, 2016

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Damn, damn, damn, damn...who knows how many stories like these are yet to be discovered by the media.

Mengão86 · Nov 29, 2016

List of players on board, including the coach;

Danilo (GOL)
Gimenez (LAD)
Bruno Rangel (ATA)
Marcelo (ZAD)
Lucas Gomes (ATA)
Sergio Manoel (VOL)
Filipe Machado (ZAE)
Matheus Biteco (VOL)
Cleber Santana (MEC)
Alan Ruschel (LAE)
William Thiego (ZAE)
Tiaguinho (ATA)
Neto (ZAD)
Josimar (VOL)
Dener (LAE)
Gil (VOL)
Ananias (MEC)
Kempes (ATA)
Follmann (GOL)
Arthur Maia (MEC)
Mateus Caramelo (LAD)
Aílton Canela (ATA)
Caio Junior (TEC)

diablodelsol · Nov 29, 2016

Such a tragedy. May they Rest In Peace

Emperor Adriano · Nov 29, 2016

msilverstein47 said: ↑

heard that the pilots had advised the tower about an electrical emergency onboard
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Step one of the grieving process finding someone to blame...

Mengão86 · Nov 29, 2016

If Chapecoense is declared the Sul-Americana champ, they'll be in the Libertadores next year. Who wants to face them and be left feeling guilty for beating them? How can they compete when they've lost half their squad? A squad filled with big team rejects or young players off loan won't cut it. It'll be an uphill battle for them just to remain in the first division. Is there really any good solution for the club's short term future?

Mengão86 · Nov 29, 2016

Only thing I can think of are some free agent players agreeing to take less just to help Chapecoense for a year or two. I'm not sure how many would make that "sacrifice", but they'd be idolized in the city for sure.

Emperor Adriano · Nov 29, 2016

Mengão86 said: ↑

If Chapecoense is declared the Sul-Americana champ, they'll be in the Libertadores next year. Who wants to face them and be left feeling guilty for beating them? How can they compete when they've lost half their squad? A squad filled with big team rejects or young players off loan won't cut it. It'll be an uphill battle for them just to remain in the first division. Is there really any good solution for the club's short term future?
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My first thoughts after checking if Alan Ruschel was still alive. From a pragmatic view they really shouldn't participate in the libertadores and like we said in the comembol thread, no1 from europe is going to send a few players on loan, they'll make tons of social media posts tho. And you are right whoever beats them will feel guilty , it will be a series b team maybe less with guys like Roger Gaucho and maybe a decent serie a player or two like paulinho or gabriel from flamengo

Century's Best · Nov 29, 2016

Mengão86 said: ↑

If Chapecoense is declared the Sul-Americana champ, they'll be in the Libertadores next year. Who wants to face them and be left feeling guilty for beating them? How can they compete when they've lost half their squad? A squad filled with big team rejects or young players off loan won't cut it. It'll be an uphill battle for them just to remain in the first division. Is there really any good solution for the club's short term future?
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Well, they have to start somewhere, and the fact that it'll be "big team rejects" and "young players" could serve as extra motivation. Such a squad won't approach the Santos of Pelé or the SPFC of 1992-1993, but with enough teamwork and training and with good coaching, they will still work hard and do their best.

This is a huge blow. Had this happened to SPFC, Palmeiras, or Corinthians - well-funded big-name sides - it would've been horrible as well, but these teams have more resources. Chapecoense has a lot less. But it will have to start from scratch and I believe that it will dar a volta por cima, even if it takes a while.

Emperor Adriano · Nov 29, 2016

Mengão86 said: ↑

Only thing I can think of are some free agent players agreeing to take less just to help Chapecoense for a year or two. I'm not sure how many would make that "sacrifice", but they'd be idolized in the city for sure.
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and as you know, in these small clubs in small cities a lot of fans know the players. It's pretty crazy.

Mengão86 · Nov 29, 2016

Century's Best said: ↑

Well, they have to start somewhere, and the fact that it'll be "big team rejects" and "young players" could serve as extra motivation. Such a squad won't approach the Santos of Pelé or the SPFC of 1992-1993, but with enough teamwork and training and with good coaching, they will still work hard and do their best.

This is a huge blow. Had this happened to SPFC, Palmeiras, or Corinthians - well-funded big-name sides - it would've been horrible as well, but these teams have more resources. Chapecoense has a lot less. But it will have to start from scratch and I believe that it will dar a volta por cima, even if it takes a while.
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They have to find a new coach too. Caio Jr was a good fit. A manager who had a promising future early in his career and fell straight on his rear when he received big team opportunities. He found a nice little place where the pressure was low and he could be appreciated. Before all this modern coach talk started, he was one of Brazil's first "modern minded" coaches when he appeared with Parana in '06-'07. He was big into analyzing data and using data to drive his decisions.

Ideally, the only name that I think would have an immediate impact is Guto Ferreira, who knows the club really well. Unfortunately, I doubt he'd leave Bahia after getting them promoted and seeing how it's a higher profile job.