Fix For Social Security & Medicare? Send 'Em To Mexico!

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Real Ray, Sep 18, 2005.

  1. Real Ray

    Real Ray Member

    May 1, 2000
    Cincinnati, OH
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    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion...8,0,7401318.story?coll=la-home-sunday-opinion

    Outsourcing to another level...
     
  2. TeamUSA

    TeamUSA Member

    Nov 24, 1999
    Tianjin, China
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    Underdeveloped areas? There's a classic idea. Let Mr. Walter Russell Mead be the first to venture into the Mexican State of Chiapas and start the development. Then let me remind him that when the locals come chasing after him with machetes to stop the development there will not be a police officer to help him out. Adios Senor Mead.
     
  3. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
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    A big Bump. Sorry mods.

    Still not fixed.

    https://www.economist.com/news/amer...sort-immigrant-loving-trump-and-living-mexico

    Come on, we need to outsource our elderly.

    Maybe make a deal with Mexico, they get rid of their limits on foreign property ownership and we allow Medicare to be used in Mexico.
     
  4. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    My father did that. Had no savings and no income but Social Security. Moved from San Diego to Mexico, and upgraded from a flophouse lifestyle to an old-school bachelor lifestyle -- renting a room in a nice house, in a good neighborhood, with plenty of money remaining for food and basic entertainment.
     
  5. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    Is your father Jesse "The Body" Ventura?
    Cool!

    (Really, I think that makes sense for many people)

    I just had a client that did that in the Fall. She has been in a huge fight with her brother over a trust (he was trustee and just screwing her over). She took what money she had and moved to Mexico. She is living at a much higher standard on her Social Security and is away from the abusive brother.

    The fight over what money is left is still ongoing, but she is living a much better life.
     
  6. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    holy necrothread.
     
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  7. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    He's got no remorse

     
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  8. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Plus, Mexicans are fine people. Dad liked 'em a lot better than he liked Americans.
     
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  9. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
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    One of my seminar courses this week had an article where this was suggested as a policy option - not Mexico specifically, but to developing countries.
     
  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Y'all are forgetting one big sticking point. The grandchildren.
     
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  11. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Well true. Pops didn't have any when he left, and when mine was born he said to drop him in a pond, because he would probably grow up to be like his mother. Ah, family.
     
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  12. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    You don't even have to be a low income retiree for it to make sense to retire abroad. And while this may or may not help Medicare, it does nothing for to "save" Social Security.
     
  13. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    Your dad sounds charming.
     
  14. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    I think it would be a great way to funnel much needed investment into 3rd/develping countries.

    If we can get enough people to do so (we won't) ti could slow down the growth of S.S. spending. We can cut S.S. benefits to 75% of their current levels, that would get us passed the baby boomer retirees.

    75% of S.S. would stretch a lot more in Latin America, the Caribbean, Africa or South East Asia.

    Shit, even Eastern/Balkans Europe for those Trumpists that want to go to white places only.
     
  15. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Wasn't giving birth in pools a thing at one time? Gotta develop those Michael Phelps olympians somehow.
     
  16. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    Forgive me, but if I spend my Social Security money in Costa Rica how does that help the program?
     
  17. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
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    You spend 75% of the program, you can spend it in Arizona or Costa Rica.
     
  18. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    But I am spending 100% of my SS benefits. Again, please explain.
     
  19. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    The only way I see it benefiting is those who move overseas would receive smaller Social Security checks, thereby benefiting those who did not.
     
  20. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Ooooor.... We could make all income taxable for SS and adopt single payer!!!!

    See, lots of money to fund the system and then better service at about 2/3 the price!!!
     
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  21. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    Why would you get a smaller check because you decided to spend your SS wisely?
     
  22. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    Oooor you could keep your hands off my money. You've already taxed it once, and forced me to invest it poorly, now you want to tax it again (which you already do).

    No thanks.
     
  23. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    It's not fair, it's just the only way to use that method to reduce SS.
     
  24. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
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    I've never understood this argument. I think what Daqip is suggesting is a removal of the cap on SS taxable income. Is there some tax on income above $128,000 that I don't know about?
     
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  25. roby

    roby Member+

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    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Apparently you haven't purchased a yacht or Airstream lately. :coffee:
     
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