Fire Osorio!!

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  1. Regulus Tera

    Regulus Tera Member+

    None
    Mexico
    Sep 10, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Argentina is looking for Gareca/Guardiola (for real). Osorio will be at best their fifth option.
     
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  2. PhDissapointment

    Cruz Azul
    Mexico
    Jul 2, 2017
    St. Louis, Missouri
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I think Guardialo and Argentina would be a good fit. He has relationships with so many players.
     
  3. Regulus Tera

    Regulus Tera Member+

    None
    Mexico
    Sep 10, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I disagree for many reasons:

    1) AFA has no money anywhere to pay for Guardiola. They would need to involve the government, and that would be a very bad faux pas considering the economic situation of the country.
    2) Guardiola left Barça for Bayern because he had squeezed what he could out of the Barcelona players at the time. Messi is rumoured to have been a source of a lot of conflict.
    3) Messi will be 35 when Qatar comes around, with his friends not that far behind. Building Argentina around what Messi wants is, at this point, crying over spilled milk.
     
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  4. Mr. P Mosh

    Mr. P Mosh Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Monterrey, NL, Mex
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    So it was the case with us, wasn't it?
     
  5. hausen

    hausen Member+

    Jun 18, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    There’s also a chance the next national team manager could be a total random dude like Osorio when he came.

    That came way out of left field.
     
  6. TGO

    TGO Member+

    Jul 4, 2011
    Good bye Osorio.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. El_Huero

    El_Huero Member+

    Dec 21, 2009
    EduarDitto "The Pelé of Anal"
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    so bruce arena?
     
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  8. Serg33

    Serg33 Member+

    Jul 11, 2007
    Good riddance
     
  9. PhDissapointment

    Cruz Azul
    Mexico
    Jul 2, 2017
    St. Louis, Missouri
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Good counterpoints. I was not aware that Messi was rumored to have been behind the conflict.

    I will say that part of the problem with Argentina is that there appears to be a huge disconnect between their reality and expectations. Outside of Messi, Aguero, Dybala, and Higuain (and if you push me Di Maria and Banega), they don't have any truly elite players. I don't think that even with ideal coaching this team would have been a true contender.
     
  10. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Icardi is better than Higuain and probably Aguero now...

    They all supposedly hate Icardi so I guess its a moot point...
     
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  11. PhDissapointment

    Cruz Azul
    Mexico
    Jul 2, 2017
    St. Louis, Missouri
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Throw Icardi on to the list too...Regardless, you can only have so many offensive players on the field at once.
     
  12. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He wasn't in MLolS very long before this World Cup so there wasn't quite enough time for the league to make him shitty. And he's prime age of 29... I can't imagine that his abilities won't have eroded considerably by playing in such an inferior league for a few seasons
     
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  13. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I'm afraid they're done...

    I hope I'm wrong but I also think Vela will be done after a season and a half in MLolS.
     
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  14. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    His game won't be as sharp after a few seasons in MLolS. He was only there for a half season before this WC. Not quite enough time for him to deteriorate. And time is also not on his side...
     
  15. Frankie Venom

    Frankie Venom Member

    Nov 4, 2013
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    MLS is less than ideal but if he keeps up his level I don’t see why we wouldn’t use him, his skill set sets him apart from the rest. If he declines in league play or for Mexico then ofc he shouldn’t be called up.
     
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  16. Lukato

    Lukato Member+

    Sep 7, 2012
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    the thing is that your level dropping in MLS is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when and Vela is already 30 with a fitness level comparable to 40 year old Rafa Marquez
     
  17. Talisman

    Talisman Member+

    Aug 5, 2011
    Stamford, CT
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Messi to play goalie.
     
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  18. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Even if Vela had stayed in Europe, he isn't a lock for next WC because of age. Players don't all necessarily deteriorate at the same rate but there is a massive difference in physical ability at age 29 and age 33 for most players...

    Combine that with playing in a subpar league against mediocre opposition and it doesn't look favorable for Vela...
     
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  19. EL PAPICHULO BAMF

    Barcelona
    Mexico
    Jun 14, 2017
    #1994 EL PAPICHULO BAMF, Jul 6, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2018
    C’mon guys. Vela’s game doesn’t rely on speed. He ages like wine. He will just become a full time #10. At 33, he can still pull a solid world cup performance...but that’s very far away for now...
     
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  20. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Skills deteriorate as well as speed. Especially when you aren't playing against good competition...
     
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  21. EL PAPICHULO BAMF

    Barcelona
    Mexico
    Jun 14, 2017
    Mls will get better in the next couple of years. It’s not a walk in the park.
     
  22. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    They've been saying that for 20+ years...

    [​IMG]
     
  23. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Great joke
     
  24. EL PAPICHULO BAMF

    Barcelona
    Mexico
    Jun 14, 2017
    U guys need to be more objective. Ur hate against the US national team blinds your objectivity. Nad this nad that..

    This recent concacaf champions cup of mls vs liga mx was pretty competitive.

    Also, a more competitive mls league will be good for mexico’s football.
     
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  25. Frankie Venom

    Frankie Venom Member

    Nov 4, 2013
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Guys, I think MLS is a crap corny league as much as the next guy (unless that person is @thedragonrik58 ) but to say stuff like he’ll forget how to pass for playing in it is dumb. If there’s a better player that can replace Vela, then by all means drop him, but until then idc if he plays in MLS as long as he still plays well. Giovinco showed he can still ball in CCL last season..why can’t Vela be like that.
     
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