Fire Olsen

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  1. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why?
     
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  2. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why what?
     
  3. Theopisa

    Theopisa Member+

    Pisa Sporting Club
    Italy
    Oct 7, 2008
    Venezia
    Club:
    Pisa Calcio
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    We'll never get rid of him, he's going to become Washington's Ferguson. Even if he doesn't win a thing.
     
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  4. Theopisa

    Theopisa Member+

    Pisa Sporting Club
    Italy
    Oct 7, 2008
    Venezia
    Club:
    Pisa Calcio
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Larry Brown was coaching Torino this season, in the A1 Italian basketball league (the top tier league), but he got fired at the end of december.
     
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  5. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why are we extending an at-best mediocre coach’s contract before the season starts?

    When Rooney gets injured and Acosta starts pouting and we combust at the end of this season they won’t fire Ben because they would have to pay out the contract.

    I want his agent.

    Rooney should have Ben’s agent.

    James
     
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  6. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    What's the guy on First Base?

    Hugh's on First. Watt's on Second.
     
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  7. ImNumberTen

    ImNumberTen Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh please.

    In modern professional sports it's rare that a coach has to go into the final season of a contract without getting an extension. When it does happen it is a public statement from management that he's on thin ice.

    Ben is under pressure, but he's not on thin ice. Not after last season. You and some others may not like it but he's earned this. And it doesn't mean he can't be fired if he screws the pooch.
     
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  8. JRHokie

    JRHokie Member+

    Aug 23, 2001
    Fairfax, VA
    Pressure? He has the least pressure of any job in professional sports. He led the team to the worst season in the history of the league and he didn't get fired. I don't think there is anything he could do to get fired.
     
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  9. Petworth Posse

    Feb 24, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    This is exactly the infuriating thing. United never discusses performance goals or metrics, if they exist. We know they don't exist because if they did, he'd have been fired long ago. Why should fans support a team that doesn't care how the coach performs?
     
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  10. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Olsen is still the coach because he's cheap, he's beloved by the fan base, and the advent of the Rooney/Acosta partnership and Rooney's on-field coaching during matches has made us competitive. Moreover, even if our modestly wealthy ownership found some extra money lying around it would go into new players long before it went to a new coach, and any new coach would demand more than Olsen is paid, IMO.
     
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  11. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    Let’s not go too far. Olsen is beloved by older fans who increasingly make up a smaller and smaller minority of the fanbase. Most fans today don’t remember him playing and recognize him only as the coach. Is he “beloved” by fans who came to be interested in the team in the last decade?
     
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  12. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    With the strong finish to the season, Olsen earned another year. He still doesn't have much wiggle room. If they bungle re-signing Asad and Acosta it makes that leash shorter. With this ownership group? Who really knows?
     
  13. Theopisa

    Theopisa Member+

    Pisa Sporting Club
    Italy
    Oct 7, 2008
    Venezia
    Club:
    Pisa Calcio
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I am an "old" fan and I certainly don't belove him! I recall he was a good player for DCU but my memory is fading more and more each year that he is still on the bench.
     
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  14. MagpieFan

    MagpieFan Member+

    Apr 25, 2004
    Back in DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Older fan here. I loved Ben the player. He could get under the skin of opponents and undo them like no one else.

    Ben the coach got a lot of leeway from me as he started because of what he was given to work with + the learning curve of transitioning from player to coach. That curve seems to have flattened out considerably though over the years and yeah...the honeymoon was over some time ago for me. He seems a passable "caretaker manager" in some sense but I don't see him having what it takes to re-establish the kind of profile DC United had at the start of the league.

    His biggest flaw for me is that he seems to lay back and say "Ok, here's the players I have, what can I do to put them together in some manner?" Then experiments until he stumbles on something. It works for awhile until teams figure it out, then he's back to experimenting with combinations.

    I'd rather see him lay out a system (with options) as much as he can, then tell the front office, "Ok, I need a guy who can do these things..."

    In short, he operates in reaction to things instead of getting ahead of the game and trying to direct it.
     
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  15. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    and we all know the FO caters to those Millennials.......................
     
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  16. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everyone outside of about 117 grumpy people love Olsen :)

    Fairly certain even millennials are older than United's target demo :)
     
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  17. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    I love my mother but I don't want her coaching DC United.


    Don't tell her I said that.
     
  18. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    wow Shammy counts as 117 people, I'm impressed!!!

    20 somethings have way less disposable income than you or I do.
     
  19. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love him too, but I don't think he is a very impactful coach. Did anyone love Bruce Arena? Or Bora, et. al.?
     
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  20. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    Most fans don’t care about Olsen or Kasper or Thohir. They focus on the game and players or have no strong opinion one way or another. Olsen staying or leaving doesn’t affect attendance at all or the fanbase in general, unless we win under a new coach or if the coach is themself a liked personality.
     
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  21. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    There is a level of indifference but I don't think it is a big as you suggest.
     
  22. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    Maybe not total indifference but pretty close to it. People won’t take to social media if thohir or Olsen stay or go for the most part. They won’t come to the stadium to try to keep them around. Almost all will simply welcome whoever comes or just not care much.
     
  23. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have you said something nice about Olsen on twitter? (not to worry, rhetorical question) Do it for fun and watch all the fire-olsen twitter accounts come and call you stupid - it's fun, then you can play with the trolls
     
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  24. shammypants

    shammypants Member+

    Oct 9, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    #2349 shammypants, Jan 10, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2019
    Hate to break this to you but DCU isn’t exactly setting the world on fire on social media. The largest DCU websites barely get traffic, hardly any comments in the case of blogs and very few posts on Facebook or twitter received more than 50 replies. It’s not really informative other than to support my point that DCU fans remain largely dormant or disinterested generally. The people who do post are likely older fans or more invested fans and that most of the time defending Olsen leads to ribbing should tell you where he stands with the fanbase.
     
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  25. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    The Facebook post about the stupid "TV Deal" has gotten 71 posts about it.
     

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