Fire Caleb Porter

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by hangthadj, Dec 2, 2018.

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  1. 96er

    96er Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Columbus
    Those people would be dumb! A person banging the drum to fire the coach a week before the season starts because we tied a lower division side with our reserves would be much much dumber!
     
  2. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Millwall 3-2 Everton
    AFC Wimbledon 4-2 West Ham

    5 others just this year in just one competition.
     
  3. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    What a bizarre post.

    Is your point that afterwards the supporters of these teams all sat around a fire and agreed that everything was ok. Perhaps joint statements were made that since reserve players were played there was nothing to learn from the game. Maybe they all also had to deal with RAINNNNNN. Did the Supporters Trust put out a statement saying, "Don't be deceived!!! Even though we gave over 2 hours of our life and money to watch this game we were under no illusion that this mattered at all. We had no desire in our viewings to see positive performances from the players of the team which we support?"

    I get if people want to point out this is a preseason game. That it's reserves, etc.

    Fact of the matter is if you spent 2 hours watching a game that you predetermined had no actual worth, or that nothing could be learned from for the upcoming season, then I question your mental health.

    On the other hand in the more likely scenario that some watched this game hoping for a better performance and to take something from it and are now just in spin/apologist mode, then that's more like it. That's the Columbus Crew fandom I've come to know and love over the past 20 years. But at least own up to it.
     
  4. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are being "all or nothing here". Of course you can learn things from a preseason game. But to pretend that one preseason game will determine the season?? That's overextrapolation--just like you cannot extrapolate a season from a regular season result--or string of results. Had you done this for the Crew in late May-early June 2008, there would have been no thought that this team was of championship caliber. But, as it turned out, it was.

    The game had value. Just not massive value.
     
  5. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do love the tactic of predicting unsaid arguments of other people as support for your current position.

    My concern is really that we are taking same group of players and expecting anything majorly different.

    Personally, I am not making any real judgements until the summer when I believe we will actually recruit new players. Pretty much every coach likes to get “their” players and that hasn’t happened yet so some of the pressure for Porter shouldn’t come until that happens.
     
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  6. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    What a bizarre post, to have read all that into it!

    You said this:
    ".It's completely unfair to expect a more convincing performance from a coach and a team of professionals against a team a full division lower than them."

    Own it.
     
  7. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I totally own it.

    Everton SHOULD expect to beat Millwall. West Ham SHOULD expect to beat Wimbledon. Rudi Garcia's Roma shouldn't have crashed out to a Serie B side in the Coppa Italia in 2015. That's why they are called upsets.

    thank u, next....
     
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  8. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Except THOSE were in real competitions. What's different about this? Hmm...
     
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  9. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't Kansas City beat Man U once?
     
  10. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    You could play devils advocate or just play dumb. Or you could read previous posts where the difference was acknowledged as were expectations.

    Only you can choose to be your best you.
     
  11. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    So you're just engaging in kabuki theater because you're mad about who the coach is...got it.
     
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  12. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Sure? But I'm also focused on the results.

    So, I guess the bigger question is why are you engaging me? The results and the soccer seem to matter little, or at least less than roadside dining establishments in Northeast Ohio. I don't deserve or question my blessings. I'm just thankful that the Lord works in mysterious ways.
     
  13. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cross for one. No waiting.
     
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  14. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    There there...
     
  15. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’d consider the “ignore” button but then I’d miss posts about chick peas and Steely Dan.
     
  16. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    All you need to know about chickpeas comes in those links I posted.
     
  17. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Last time I share a recipe with you.
     
  18. porchlight

    porchlight Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
    Crawlumbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Yep..looks like Open Cup play.
     
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  19. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    To be fair to Timon the chickpeas thread is probably the only thread in the past 12 months where I have seen him remain on topic and actually engage the previous posts in an intellectually honest manner. It's his best work.
     
  20. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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  21. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Swenson's?
     
  22. porchlight

    porchlight Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
    Crawlumbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Chickpeas equals falafel
    Yum..all ya need to know . Next
     
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  23. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #599 KCbus, Feb 23, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2019
    Wait... so he hasn't even coached a real match yet, and he's won us a trophy?

    Suck it, hang.
     
  25. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I'm guessing you never won a game of Memory as a child, and that maybe history won't your best subject in school.
     

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