Fire Berhalter

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  1. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I think you misspelled petty. But I’ll take the compliment.
     
  2. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gregg Berhalter appears to be learning from past tactical mistakes and I am quite pleased about that.
     
  3. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Yes, I was very happy Steffen started punting the ball over the press a few games ago.
     
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  4. redi44crew

    redi44crew Member+

    Mar 27, 2007
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    *major trophies

    Apparently we won something in 2016... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLS_Fair_Play_Award
     
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  5. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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  6. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I thought it was good for a free 6" sub.
     
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  7. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you saying I too can get compliments by starting fights?
     
  8. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you sure? I feel like some of this shit is past its sell-by date.
     
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  9. Crew Chuck35

    Crew Chuck35 Member+

    Apr 13, 2009
    Gahanna, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fire Berhalter;

    No.
    By the ghost of Tom Fitzgerald, No.


    Now close the thread.
     
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  10. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is a lower probability of winning the Eastern Conference championship today, than there was of winning MLS Cup in the first years of the league.
     
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  11. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You wait your turn. I get the next fight!
     
  12. ibrew

    ibrew Member+

    Feb 3, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Sorry for this crosspost but it fits better here: 3G had excellent criticism of disciplinary committee's disparate penalties to Zlatan and Christian Martinez. He perfectly conveyed disapproval of CM's action, CM's remorse, and the curious different treatment of two players for similar actions very succinctly.
     
  13. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't Zlatan actually sent off in that game? Martinez wasn't.

    Since you cannot give a half game suspension (at least in soccer), I can see why Martinez got two games
     
  14. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    upload_2018-6-5_9-31-43.png
    Gigi owns the preseason.
     
  15. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That win percentage is a bit disingenuous. Usually you get half credit for a draw--and there were no draws early in MLS's history.
     
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  16. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    If that chart is up to date we are looking at August 23rd as the likely date in which Berhalter sets the club record for most games coached without a major trophy?

    I'll be sending out celebration invites in the coming weeks.
     
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  17. jairadballerina

    jairadballerina Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    C-Town
    Someone owns a few Mickey Mouse Cups and the Armadillo Cup.
     
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  18. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Sadly, we've never won the ATX Challenge Armadillo Cup. I want that trophy so bad, now more than ever!
     
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  19. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, you don't get half credit for a draw in soccer. It's the "win" percentage, not the "not loss" percentage.

    If you think that's disingenuous or not fair, here's the "not loss" percentage* for each coach (a half-point for each draw):
    upload_2018-6-5_14-40-5.png

    Even with ties considered, the story doesn't change for Gigi. He's still ranked 5th among Crew coaches. Happy?

    But the win percentage is not the point. As our beloved @hangthadj has repeatedly noted, Gigi will be the longest-serving Crew coach by the end of the season. Despite having more time and control than any other coach in team history, he hasn't won any major trophies. Sorry, but being runner-up isn't good enough.

    *I suck at math so the numbers may be off.
     
  20. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, you also have to factor in the fact that the league has grown. It's a lot easier to win a trophy in a 10 team league than in a 23 team league. To fail to take that into account is disingenuous, at best. But we've had this argument before.
     
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  21. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Anyone wanna give me a quick rundown of Berhalter's record in the easiest competition to win a major trophy?

    What a ********in nightmare. Again.
     
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  22. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But hang, it is really hard to win trophies so the coach should get a pass! Don't be so unfair!
     
  23. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    It's a fundamental character flaw in Gregg Berhalter that he has yet to show he takes this tournament seriously. It's the first trophy this team won. It's named after our founder. And yet he treats the Charleston Challenge Cup with more respect.

    Maybe next year the USSF will get rid of the regional pods and we can draw Charleston in the 4th round and it will short circuit Greggbot 3000 and he will field a team capable of winning a game.
     
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  24. Aaron d

    Aaron d Member+

    May 15, 2005
    Wooster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would be nice for Ggg to win one of the big 3 trophies while with the club. We are about the halfway mark for the season with a less than 5% chance at the SS and the Open Cup officially gone. His only chance again is MLS Cup.
     
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  25. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Two things. By your lights, our Phillies should take down all of their National League Pennants--because they don't count as a real trophy. Second, by your standards almost every coach in the league would get fired after 3-4 years without a trophy. You can do it, but that does not bode well for consistency and team style over the long haul. Much as I hate the Cardinals (mostly for 2011:mad:), they do have a Cardinal Way, which over the long haul has led to a lot of silverware.

    Also, to flip things on their head, if it's all about trophies, Greg Andrulis must have been a good coach.... I don't think that's the case.
     
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