Fire Berhalter

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew SC' started by mateo319, May 12, 2016.

  1. mateo319

    mateo319 Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Told you we would need this thread.

    This year has been an absolute clown show. Berhalter appears to be not only a terrible manager, but a terrible human being as well. Only an idiot would say that the real problem is that "a player spoke to the media." This is corporatism at its absolute worst, and displays Berhalter's complete inability to handle the underlying situation.

    Precourt gets plenty of criticism for his fire sale of tradition, terrible kits, complete contempt for the fanbase, and affinity for underlings who spout the correct line of BS. No, I don't care that he has a twitter account. Calling out the fans and saying "we still got this" on the day his coach publicly displays he can't lead this team is the most amazing display of denial in this franchise in a very long time.

    The warning signs were there. The problem isn't getting better. Fire Berhalter. Hope Precourt takes a long look in the mirror.
     
  2. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Beacon, NY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I'm only pissed off I didn't start this thread first.
     
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  3. mmradio13

    mmradio13 Member+

    Apr 13, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you two know something the rest of us don't?
     
  4. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Beacon, NY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew


    In order to protect his job, maybe Gregg should suspend the owner for speaking honestly and emotionally on social media this morning. Keep all dysfunction in house!
     
  5. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
  6. mateo319

    mateo319 Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Love that Precourt's driving around looking for answers to life on Dad-rock radio stations instead of getting the house in order. Could there be a better indication of the dysfunction of this club.
     
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  7. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has berhalter earned no benefit of the doubt?
     
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  8. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    Gregg runs the whole soccer side shop. Unless you expect precourt to fire him, then what do expect him to be doing?
     
  9. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Beacon, NY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Precourt's 5 stages of denial

    1. Everything will be okay!!!!
    2. Get drunk at craft beer fest at Mapfre
    3. Call out supporters after team blows 3 goal lead.
    4. Drive around fairgrounds aimlessly listening to power ballads
    5. Book Emo Music festival Mope on the Range at Mapfre Stadium to offset falling ticket and concessions revenue as team circles the drain.
     
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  10. mmradio13

    mmradio13 Member+

    Apr 13, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're laughably delusional.

    Players are routinely disciplined for speaking out to the media about a teammate. It rarely happens because few players are stupid enough to do so. Speaking honestly to the media is fine. As is being disciplined when the things you say shouldn't be said because they create a toxic atmosphere.

    There are also regularly transfer rumors and transfers when a player defies his coach. Precourt has made a significant investment into Berhalter, Berhalter's philosophy, and Berhalter's vision for the club's future. Gregg rightfully disciplined Kei. Kei publicly said the suspension wasn't warranted and that he's going to continue his jackassery. The minute a player thinks he is bigger than the manager, he has to go.
     
  11. mateo319

    mateo319 Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the record, I called out Berhalter's hiring from the beginning. But through what would Berhalter have earned any benefit of the doubt? His weaknesses are very well documented here. His tactical inflexibility recalls some of Andrulis's greatest hits. His acquisitions have been questionable. His personnel management is poor. His handling of crisis is completely inept. And he lead us to being only the second team to fail to win MLS Cup on home soil with an amazingly inept performance.

    He hasn't won the Shield. He hasn't won the US Open Cup. And we're now getting the most amazing replay of the Ante Razov situation. So I really see no reason to give him any kind of benefit of the doubt.
     
  12. mateo319

    mateo319 Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the problem, isn't it?

    Other than that, your post completely glosses over the fact that Berhalter's management has played a big role in getting us to this point.
     
  13. mateo319

    mateo319 Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've made it clear that's exactly what I expect him to do. I think we both know Precourt's too weak to do it.
     
  14. mmradio13

    mmradio13 Member+

    Apr 13, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What point? The playoffs his first year? MLS Cup the following year? Raising the league perception about Columbus and transforming the club into a top destination for MLS free agents?

    Ugh. The horror.
     
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  15. mateo319

    mateo319 Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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  16. YeahMorgan

    YeahMorgan Member

    Jul 11, 2011
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Primary Concern: Internet Points
    Current Status: $hitlord
     
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  17. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    MLS cup finalists with his team and his philosophy and we should fire him now.?
     
  18. mateo319

    mateo319 Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're definitely going back to MLS Cup this year. Definitely. 2 wins in 9 games plus a roster coming apart at the seams is a definite recipe for MLS Cup victory.

    But this is MLS! Crazy shit happens! What was the last team in complete disarray to win the cup? Samspon's crew 11 years ago? Except they were in 1st place when Sigi was fired. Who am I missing?
     
  19. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    Fire a guy after 9 games. Ok
     
  20. mmradio13

    mmradio13 Member+

    Apr 13, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Care to take a guess at how many wins Portland had through 9 games last year?

    Hint: It's 2.
     
  21. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    3 wins in 11 so far this season.
     
  22. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Beacon, NY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    This trade is the final nail in the coffin. What an awful trade. I'm so excited with our GAM, TAM, and draft picks.

    Coming off one spat which Gregg failed to manage we traded a player coming off a top 5 season in club history. However, if we are lucky we may use Gregg's vast scouting network for the next Amro Tarek, Kirsten Steindhorssen, Emmanual Pogatetz, or Emil Larssen.

    Coming off 2015 we have punted 2016 because Gregg couldn't handle one voice in the locker room. Dude is a coward.
     
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  23. CrewV Man

    CrewV Man Member+

    Aug 18, 2011
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you have been against him from the beginning. So you are just looking for things to confirm your bias. That helps frame your thoughts.

    I was going to make more points but just got a text that Kei has been traded.

    Holding judgement.
     
  24. mateo319

    mateo319 Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's right, I forgot about that. IIRC, Porter was on a pretty hot seat. So why shouldn't Berhalter be here? I also recall Portland missing some players to start. I don't recall the same level of locker room dysfunction. Looking at their schedule from last year, they had one bad loss, to Orlando at home.

    That doesn't cloud the fact that we have dropped points we never should have dropped on a regular basis to start this year. At *best* Portland is the exception that proves the rule. At worst, and what I think to be reality, we have nothing in common with that team. Feel free to make the case otherwise.
     
  25. mateo319

    mateo319 Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would have been perfectly happy to have been wrong.
     

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