Fire Berhalter Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by wixson7, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    Well, a better hire would be a coach who actually has gone through those growing pains instead of having to watch a guy learn on the job, especially when the player pool is less than impressive.
     
  2. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    I really like that ggg called up a few fringe players...like holmes and gyau for this match...

    my problem with him is that he seems to WAAAYY overvalue "lockeroom fit" "camaraderie" "coachability" "personality" etc...

    its okay to consider those things but i get the feeling he has those factors at the top of his list based on some of his lineup decisions so far....

    what matters is what happens on the field.

    no one cares if roldan tells a great campfire story. or if trapp makes a good smore.

    and GGG shouldn't either....


    (if he wants to give it a 1 or 2% weight in his roster selections that;s fine...but it seems he gives it like 50% or more...which is absurd)

    I'd really like a reporter to ask him why he values "personality and lockerroom fit" so heavily.....where did he get that thought process from? as a player, was he on a team of best buds that won everything and now he's trying to re-create that? is it an (over) reaction to the split between euros and domestics under JK?
     
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  3. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Definitely, but I made that previous post before the Gold Cup roster was announced, though.
     
  4. shnaggletooth

    shnaggletooth Member+

    Jun 23, 2002
    #79 shnaggletooth, Jun 6, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2019
    Holy cow. There oughta be a tin foil hat badge affixed to user profiles in addition to the yellow/red cards handed out on these forums. Alex Jones should invite you on his show.

    So Berhalter purposely started green players so as to see them fall on their faces in order to secure starting spots for MB and Jozy, eh? Forget the inconvenient fact that he also started Tim Ream and Omar Gonzalez, who are also part of the "old guard", and that they also stood to be exposed as incompetent -- in your alternate universe, Greg actually wanted the young players exclusively to embarrass themselves in such humiliating fashion so that veterans can solidify their starting spots.

    And even if it means the loss of his own job -- and the possible black mark on his future resume, Berhalter is willing to sabotage the entire USMNT program and his own career just so he remains on good terms with some of the old timers...

    There's more evidence to support the existence of the Easter Bunny than there is in your conspiracy theory.
     
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  5. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 6, 2006

    I couldn't resist people are just taking this all too serious.

    I mean you had to be hurt by the parks to mls prediction I had coming true and him now sitting the bench.

    On a lighter note I just don't see how people are in such a state of shock over a team that lacks talent...lacking talent.
     
  6. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, he is on the bench n most of his games, when he plays is only for 10-15 minutes. When he is not in the bench he is with the U23 group.
     
  7. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 6, 2006
    yeah tough go for such an immense talent, any guess on his next move? man city likely to take him or will zidane sweep in and get him for next season?
     
  8. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have a feeling this thread could be the thread that unites the Bradley haters and the Klinsi haters, the pro and anti-Nepotism crowds, the Adu lovers and haters.

    Yes, I am subbing to watch us all sing Kumbaya together as the USMNT goes down in flames.

    Welcome to my TED talk.
     
  9. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about Landycakes?
     
  10. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We'll have to see what he says about Berhalter's coaching ;-)
     
  11. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    May 4, 2002
    He was a good, not great, soccer player but his intelligence falls much too low for his opinions to be of any importance.
     
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  12. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unlike you!
     
  13. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty annoyed that he kept Sargent And Amon off the U-20 squad and then didn’t call them up.
     
  14. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s the insanity of it.

    The only way he should have prevented Sargent and Amon from being included on the u-20’s is that they were a lock for the Gold Cup. That specifically hurts Sargent who needed a good summer tournament to gain some confidence going into next year.

    That said, I’m sort of grateful that they weren’t included because I can’t think of whose spot I wish they would have taken; definitely not Soto who is having a break out tournament... maybe Konrad who hasn’t been quite as good.

    Additionally though, in what universe do you call in 40 players!!!! And then start a player outside that 40. Seriously, if Yueill was good enough to start then why isn’t he even in the top 40?

    And what the hell happened to Ethan Horvath?

    I can’t understand this coach. His player selections are all jacked up. He’s reactive instead of proactive. He favors the worst players. Plus, he is holding onto old dogs who need to be put to rest. He plays our best players out of position and comes up with the worst formations. And the energy of the team is completely flat.

    Honestly, he’s so bad that I’d take Sarachan over him at this point. Hell, I’d take Sampson again over him.... he’s THAT bad.
     
  15. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interestingly Berhalter’s logic was that with Lletget’s injury he needed extra midfield options and that meant dropping a forward and he judged Zardes as ahead of Sargent. Never mind that Sargent’s goals per game is about double Zardes’. It seem forwards are supposed to stretch defenses and not, you know, actually score goals.

    Maybe the coaching staff doesn’t understand that whole “score goals” thing which would explain a lot.
     
  16. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, if GB's aim was to craft a team that would not waste time with some bizarre obsession with scoring goals, given the results of the last three matches he's on a winning streak.....
     
  17. randomnoise

    randomnoise Member

    DC United
    United States
    Mar 26, 2017
    He's a douche - and no, I don't mean the french word for "shower".
     
  18. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Holden can.
     
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  19. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member

    Aug 1, 2014
    That is coaching/federation malpractice. Inexcusable. He should be fired for his roster mismanagement, alone.
     
  20. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    And who will be hired in December 2021?













    Bruce Arena.
     
  21. SteelyTom

    SteelyTom Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    Boston, MA USA
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Note that Holden said on the FS1 Jamaica broadcast that Gregg should be expected to win the GC "in style."

    That's the bar.
     
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  22. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Horvath is hurt I think. But otherwise agree 100%.

    Win the Gold Cup or GTFO. And it's 100x worse because we let Mexico poach Tata from right under our noses.
     
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  23. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A bunch of Mexico's best aren't even showing up for the GC.

    This isn't near their A team. If we can't win this GC we have problems.

    But I don't expect us to win it and we do have problems.
     
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  24. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    It's not near our A team either.

    The difference is, Mexico's coach knows he isn't bringing an A team.
     
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  25. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He’s out injured but I wouldn’t be shocked if he wanted to focus his club situation knowing that there’s nothing he can do to win the starting role as 3G gave it to Steffen the second he has hired and favored Johnson because of “familiarity” from the Jan Camp. It’s got to be frustrating knowing you won’t be given a legit chance.
     
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