Final Seeding and Discussion of Your Favorite Draw (AFC WCQ 2018-Round 3)

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  1. Diego Aguirre

    Diego Aguirre Member+

    Oct 4, 2015
    Tashkent
    Nat'l Team:
    Uzbekistan
    i know but football is exception, their fans very negatively perceive naturalization issue in football, you can check it in russian sports portals where a lot of unpleasent comments written forward to football federation, you can't find people more nationalist than Russian
     
  2. kolbee

    kolbee Member

    Oct 14, 2011
    Here is a list of players who have made at least 15 league starts this season in the top 15 first tier leagues and top 4 second tier leagues (Spain/Germany/England/Italy).


    Code:
    Japan
    Inui           Eibar          Spain
    Kagawa         Dortmund       Germany
    Haraguchi      Hertha BSC     Germany
    Muto           Mainz          Germany
    Sakai          Hamburger SV   Germany
    Hasebe         Frankfurt      Germany
    Kiyotake       Hannover       Germany
    Sakai          Hannover       Germany
    Okazaki        Leicester      England
    Nagatomo       Inter          Italy
    Honda          Milan          Italy
    Havenaar       ADO Den Haag   Netherlands
    Kubo           Young Boys     Switzerland
    Minamino       RB Salzburg    Austria
    
    Australia
    Leckie         Ingolstadt     Germany
    Griffiths      Roda JC        Netherlands
    Behich         Bursaspor      Turkey
    Degenek        1860 Munich    Germany (second division)
    Holland        Duisburg       Germany (second division)
    Luongo         QPR            England (second division)
    Wright         Preston NE     England (second division)
    Davidson       Huddersfield   England (second division)
    
    South Korea
    Koo Ja-cheol   Augsburg       Germany
    Hong Jeong-ho  Augsburg       Germany
    Kim Jin-su     Hoffenheim     Germany
    Ki Sung-yueng  Swansea        England
    Suk Hyun-jun   Porto/Setubal  Portugal
    
    Iran
    Jahanbakhsh    AZ Alkmaar     Netherlands
    Ansarifard     Panionios      Greece
    Haji Safi      FSV Frankfurt  Germany (second division)
    
    Uzbekistan
    Akhmedov       Krasnodar      Russia
    Denisov        L. Moscow      Russia
    
    Iraq
    Adnan          Udinese        Italy
     
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  3. Ogasawara

    Ogasawara Member

    Jun 15, 2014
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Australia without Tim Cahill seems to be like a lion without teeth or claws.
    If you know what I mean:D
     
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  4. Diego Aguirre

    Diego Aguirre Member+

    Oct 4, 2015
    Tashkent
    Nat'l Team:
    Uzbekistan
    or Kangaroo without pouch)
     
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  5. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    We are starting to learn to play without him, but he is still a vital squad member at this stage. Even though he isn't the captain, he provides a hell of a lot of leadership both on and off the field. I think whoever we draw in the next round will struggle to take points off us in Australia. I would expect that we would gain at least 16 points in our home matches, maybe even 18 with a bit of luck. We do have to improve our away form a bit, we have been dropping points away from home and generally haven't played to our best in Asia for a while. In the next round all the teams we play will be similar or better quality than Jordan, so there will be no easy away games.
     
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  6. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You have only 5 home games in next round. How you can get 16 or 18 home points in next round? btw, we also have to improve our away form.
     
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  7. MVP#3

    MVP#3 Member

    Mar 1, 2012
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United Arab Emirates

    here's UAE records against the remaining team excluding China
    UAE vs Australia: W:0 L:1 D:2
    UAE vs Iran: W:0 L:8 D:3


    UAE vs S.Korea: W:1 L:6 D:0
    UAE vs Japan: W:3 L:3 D:7 (2015 QF counts as a draw)

    UAE vs Saudi Arabia: W:5 L:18 D:8 (the 96 Final counts as a draw)
    UAE vs Uzbekistan: W:5 L:2 D:3

    UAE vs Qatar: W:9 L:12 D:7
    UAE vs Iraq: W:6 L:8 D:6

    UAE vs Syria: W:5 L:1 D:2
    UAE vs Thailand: W:4 L:2 D:1


    the top 3 teams I would like to face are (1) Saudi Arabia, (2) Japan (3) Australia
     
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  8. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Sorry miscounted. For some reason I had in my mind six games rather than 6 teams in the group. Make that 13-15 points at home. You may have improved your home form, but we won't be playing you in the next round. I would expect you guys to qualify with a similar home record. I would think we would be having an off night if we could only manage a draw or lose to anyone outside the top four in Australia. I would be disappointed with a home loss to Iran, Japan or South Korea, but would be OK with a draw. I would be very happy to get a draw away to any of those teams, and be disappointed with a loss to someone outside the top 4 away, but would still expect to lose one away to them somewhere. I think 13 points at home and a further 8 points away would be good enough to make the World Cup as one of the top two teams.
     
  9. Valkyrie

    Valkyrie Member

    Mar 27, 2013
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    #209 Valkyrie, Apr 4, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 5, 2016
    Shut up! You're being too rational and logical for this thread. Don't you uzbekistan is gonna steamroll us all straight to the WC?
     
  10. Zandi360

    Zandi360 Member+

    Dec 10, 2013
    Club:
    Sepahan
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    What would be your preferred draw?
     
  11. thewitness

    thewitness Member

    Melbourne Victory, Derby County
    Australia
    Jul 10, 2013
    Club:
    Derby County FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    The Austrian League is outside the Top 15 leagues. Australian Apo Giannou made 18 starts in the Greek Super League and was second top scorer this season before heading to China in March.
     
  12. MVP#3

    MVP#3 Member

    Mar 1, 2012
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United Arab Emirates
    Australia
    Japan
    Saudi Arabia
    UAE
    Iraq
    Thailand
     
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  13. qatarigunner

    qatarigunner Member

    Aug 25, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Thanks. I'm surprised that Azmoun isn't on the list. :eek: Every Iranian fan talks about him as if he was a star in his team but....:confused:
     
  14. Ali(Iran)

    Ali(Iran) Member+

    Mar 31, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    He is in the list. You just need to look harder:))
    He is implied:-D
     
  15. William McRashid

    Jan 22, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    But what ???
    Jealousy is a bad ill.
     
  16. gamban98

    gamban98 Member

    Dec 7, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    You forgot about Hiroki Yamada. He plays for Karlsruher and has started 25 games in Bundesliga second division. He never gets called up for Japan, though.
     
  17. Matilda Maniac

    Matilda Maniac Big Soccer Memebr

    Sep 21, 2006
    Perth
    Club:
    Perth Glory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    If Iran ends up in a group with Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Syria, it might be playing more games at neutral venues than anywhere else.
     
  18. SultanL

    SultanL Member

    Apr 6, 2016
    Australia, Japan, South Korea and Iran are still the favourites.
     
  19. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got the schedule of next round for first pot teams Iran and Australia. I do not know the schedule for the teams of other pots yet.

    Here is the schedule for Iran in next round and Australians can understand their schedule in next round now:

    Iran vs Qatar or Iraq
    China or UAE vs Iran
    Saudi Arabia or Uzbekistan vs Iran
    Iran vs Korea or Japan
    Syria or Thailand vs Iran
    Qatar or Iraq vs Iran
    Iran vs UAE or China
    Iran vs Saudi Arabia or Uzbekistan
    Korea or Japan vs Iran
    Iran vs Syria or Thailand

    I put the host team first and the guest team second.
     
  20. Ogasawara

    Ogasawara Member

    Jun 15, 2014
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #220 Ogasawara, Apr 10, 2016
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2016
    I hope that Japan is able to avoid a match against China. As it would again result in
    a Kung Fu match. Apart from China I do not care which team Japan will face in the next stage.
    A match between Japan and China is comparable to a match between Iran and an Arab country.
    You can be sure that blood will be spilt. :D
     
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  21. +PL+

    +PL+ Member+

    Jun 22, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    #221 +PL+, Apr 10, 2016
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2016
    Watch Iran vs China 2004 match to know we experienced something similar. That was the only unpleasant encounter we had with Chinese.
     
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  22. greenlion

    greenlion Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    CHINA
    Club:
    Beijing Guoan
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Just hope China will get Japan in our Group, other teams are no difference to me
     
  23. Qatar

    Qatar Member

    Jan 24, 2016
    I hope we get Iran rather than Australia, only because either will be our first match.

    We are likely to lose to both (we do draw Iran on a good day), but our second match will be at home 5 days later so we can't survive the long trip to Australia for the second vital match at home.
     
  24. Diego Aguirre

    Diego Aguirre Member+

    Oct 4, 2015
    Tashkent
    Nat'l Team:
    Uzbekistan
    Wonderful draw - we have Iraaaaan!))
     
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  25. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Iran, South Korea, Uzbekistan, China, Qatar, Syria.
     
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