FIFA's Stance on Cross-Border Leagues (ASEAN Super League?)

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Apr 4, 2015.

  1. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member

    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
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    Not sure I totally understand this, but I hope players have the freedom to sign with any club; I think this is an important distinction from the international game.
     
  2. Nico Limmat

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    Correct, the Welsh teams have been shut out of any Welsh competitions and that is the model I support. If you move to another pyramid then you need to take the good with the bad - in this case a tougher European qualification. I don't like the Canadian situation (that is quite unique together with Liechtenstein) and would like to see that door closed. If the CONCACAF CL had even 1/4 of the prize money of its UEFA counterpart the Canadian qualification would be highly controversial.
     
  3. NaBUru38

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    I would prefer national teams, but I would accept allow franchises to sign players from other participating countries. But no European, African or South American imports, the point is to develop local talent.
     
  4. Nico Limmat

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  5. Blondo

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    #80 Blondo, Sep 4, 2016
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    The Atlantic League was back on the table earlier this year (in february during the ECA meeting in Paris) ... as leverage or a contingency plan if the big boys went ahead with a break-away Super League ... with the 2018 reform favouring the big boys ... the "lesser leagues" can fight over how the remaining 14 spots will be allocated now ... there probably won't be an Atlantic League (unless the big boys break away in another reform) ... it's just a bargaining chip.

    From earlier this year (in Dutch):

    - http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20160214_02128225
    - http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/25200791/__Eredivisie_in_tegenaanval__.html
    - http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/v...__Briljant_idee_Van_Raaij_nu_realiteit__.html

    Also this:
     
  6. PuckVanHeel

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    The value of that 'bargaining chip' will only decline. With e.g. the scramble for the herds in Asia taking place now.

    It is now or never.
     
  7. Nico Limmat

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    According to this a Balkan League is at the most advanced stage of planning:
    I guess things are on hold until the new UEFA president is determined.
     
  8. Blondo

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    Sep 21, 2013
    Haha ... for 25 years Holland and Belgium have toyed with the idea of a BeNe League ... yet a Balkan League is at the most advanced stage of planning ... Balkan countries are known for giving each other the warm and fuzzies, right? ... the security at some of those games will have to be tight AF ... if a Balkan League comes together before a BeNe League (or an Atlantic League) => SMH
     
  9. AlbertCamus

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    Sep 2, 2005
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    The Balkan league is a TV package I would sign up for! That'd be intense. Mind you, a leage with Ajax that includes Belgium teams (and maybe others- Scotland, Ireland?, etc...) would be great too.
     
  10. Nico Limmat

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    Well, apparently there is a well functioning Balkan Basketball league so it is not that far fetched. Obviously travelling support would have to be banned to minimize security concerns.
     
  11. Blondo

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    Sep 21, 2013
    We already have a Bene League ... but it's handball ... :cry::cry::cry:
     
  12. NaBUru38

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    Rangers to fifth division? Not again!
     
  13. Nico Limmat

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  14. Nico Limmat

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  15. dinamo_zagreb

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    There's constant talk last few weeks on regional league in Balkan area.

    New UEFA pres is Slovene, he comes to Zagreb (if I am right) to talk to local football chiefs about possible Ex-Yu league. Media say that there's money from UEFA for prizes and that they will help and that all is set to start in 2018/19, but FAs from the region want CL group stage spot for winners. In last 15 years teams from former country played 42 matches in CL winning only ONE. LOL. They are modest.

    Supporters (ultras) from four biggest clubs (Dinamo, Hajduk, Crvena zvezda, Partizan) made it clear - they don't want joint competitions at all.
     
  16. Nico Limmat

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  17. Nico Limmat

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  18. EvanJ

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    I don't want a Super League. The list of possible invited clubs includes Marseille, who has a worse club coefficient than Tottenham and seven Spanish clubs who weren't listed.
     
  19. dinamo_zagreb

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    #94 dinamo_zagreb, Feb 28, 2017
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    If it goes through (I hope it won't as that means death to all mid-level teams, not to talk about lower ones), they will invite teams based on money, marketing, TV-audience criteria, not UEFA coefficient.

    EDIT: Unless UEFA starts it on it's own which is pretty unlikely - it's more likely they change CL format to 6/8/10-team groups.
     
  20. Nico Limmat

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    Neither do I, but the potential revenues will keep this firmly on the agenda. From the above article:
    A European Super League is likely to top NFL money.
    Faced with the choice of either backing the ESL or losing the Deloitte Money League I think UEFA (and FIFA) would get on board and sanction it, if only to preserve the national team game - the money pot their associations depend on. The red lines of negotiation would be the following:

    - Continued participation of players in World Cup and Euros.
    - Revenue sharing with UEFA/national leagues.
    - Promotion/relegation with the Europa League.
     
  21. NaBUru38

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    Mar 8, 2016
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    I dislike self-selected club leagues.

    Every team in every national league should have the chance of qualifying.
     
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