FIFA World Cup All-time rankings

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  1. Pingudo

    Pingudo New Member

    Nov 18, 2003
    Santa Cruz
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/pastworldcup/index.html

    The big 8 have all won a World Cup title now:

    (Well, technically Holland is 8th and Uruguay is 9th but that's just a minor technicality. If only Uruguay had won that 3rd place game :rolleyes:)

    NT............. pts....apps.
    1. Brazil ........213 - 19
    2. Germany ...190 - 17
    3. Italy ........153 - 17
    4. Argentina ..121 - 15
    5. England ......97 -13
    6. France .......86 -13
    7. Spain .........84 -13
    8. Netherlands 67 - 9
    9. Uruguay .....65 - 11
     
  2. Henchag

    Henchag Member+

    Aug 26, 2009
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    its stars that count my friend..

    brazil 5
    italy 4
    germany 3
    argentina 2
    uruguay 2
    france 1
    spain 1
    england 1
     
  3. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    brazil 5
    italy 3
    germany 3
    uruguay 2
    argentina 1,5
    france 1
    spain 1
    england 1


    looks more familiar to me ;)
     
  4. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    How have you computed the points? The thing is, that till 1990 WC, there were 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw. That resulted in many teams playing super defensive and aiming for a draw. That had a big impact on the final outcome of the games. Maybe you should count a win in WCs pre 90 as 2 points and re do the calculations.
     
  5. ndebergerac

    ndebergerac Member

    Feb 19, 2008
    Philadelphia, PA
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    WEST Germany 3;)
     
  6. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That's nonsens, because it's the same state and the same FA before and after 1990. Nice contrast to the Italian titles from '34 and '38, though.;):D
     
  7. mattteo

    mattteo Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Are you from Hannover, by chance??

    Anyway, Italy's titles are all more legitimate than the 1954 farce.
     
  8. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Germany 2.111111 then, 1990 world cup was 'fair'. :rolleyes: /s
     
  9. poorvi

    poorvi Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Bombay
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    How did you reach this particular figure??? :confused:

    Is no body bothered that awarding 3 points for wins, especially for tournaments when they weren't worth 3 is not the way ahead.

    Also, nobody seems to take into account that points are a direct function of games played. While I admit that the more games you play means the further you go in tournaments, that isn't always the case. A losing quarter finalist in the 32 team format played as many games as the finalists in the first few WCs. That is a statistic, when corrected , will improve Italy and Uruguay's over all performance. Points/ game played is a better or more telling statistic.

    People are more interested in a Germany vs Italy debate here, which it is not. :eek: :p
     
  10. BarcaFan

    BarcaFan Member

    Nov 14, 2004
    London
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    If only Forlan had scored an extra goal, he would've been the golden boot and the golden ball, the first in history for a 4th place team. I think this started in 82, 78 unofficially.

    Golden ball winners:

    78 Kempes (also won golden boot)
    82 Rossi (also won golden boot)
    86 Maradona
    90 Schillaci (also won golden boot)
    94 Romario
    98 Ronaldo
    02 Kahn
    06 Zidane
    10 Forlan (first time given after the final)
     
  11. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  12. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It is decided befor and announced after the match, like ever.
     
  13. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  14. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    haha. I think they spare Germany from having the worst goals conceded to matches ratio
     
  15. v00d00daddy

    v00d00daddy Member

    May 22, 2007
    Toronto
    These stats sure are pretty...but in the end....trophies are all that matters.

    Germans...you've had many chances. You had a great chance in 2006...at home..in front of your home crowd...and you played great. Unfortunately Italy played better and scored when it counted.

    Again, this year, you had your chance and failed to seize it. So....like others have said already:

    1. Brazil
    2. Italy
    3. Germany
    4. Every country with 2
    5. Every Country with 1

    All the stats in the world will never change the order of this list. Only winning when it matters.
     
  16. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Or to have a fascist dictator, who forces and impends referees, officials and players.

    Oh.. and to win at the right time.:D
     
  17. Negao

    Negao New Member

    Jul 12, 2010
    Agreed. The number of titles should be the first and most important criteria. Average points per game is interesting, but completely devoid of context.
     
  18. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    All-Time Table

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  19. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    True, that's the only one that matters.

    Sadly, this one also matters, actually:

    Spain: Last win 2010
    Italy: Last win 2006
    Brazil: Last win 2002
    France: Last win 1998
    Germany (West): Last win 1990
    Argentina: Last win 1986
    England: Last win 1966
    Uruguay: Last win 1950
     
  20. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Final 2010 World Cup ranking:

    All 32 teams are ranked based on criteria which have been used by FIFA for previous tournaments.[13]

    R Team G P W D L GF GA GD Pts.

    Final
    1 Spain H 7 6 0 1 8 2 +6 18
    2 Netherlands E 7 6 0 1 12 6 +6 18

    3rd and 4th place
    3 Germany D 7 5 0 2 16 5 +11 15
    4 Uruguay A 7 3 2 2 11 8 +3 11

    Eliminated in the quarter-finals
    5 Argentina B 5 4 0 1 10 6 +4 12
    6 Brazil G 5 3 1 1 9 4 +5 10
    7 Ghana D 5 2 2 1 5 4 +1 8
    8 Paraguay F 5 1 3 1 3 2 +1 6

    Eliminated in the round of 16
    9 Japan E 4 2 1 1 4 2 +2 7
    10 Chile H 4 2 0 2 3 5 −2 6
    11 Portugal G 4 1 2 1 7 1 +6 5
    12 United States C 4 1 2 1 5 5 0 5
    13 England C 4 1 2 1 3 5 −2 5
    14 Mexico A 4 1 1 2 4 5 −1 4
    15 Korea Republic B 4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4
    16 Slovakia F 4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4

    Eliminated in the group stage
    17 Côte d'Ivoire G 3 1 1 1 4 3 +1 4
    18 Slovenia C 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4
    19 Switzerland H 3 1 1 1 1 1 0 4
    20 South Africa A 3 1 1 1 3 5 −2 4
    21 Australia D 3 1 1 1 3 6 −3 4
    22 New Zealand F 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3
    23 Serbia D 3 1 0 2 2 3 −1 3
    24 Denmark E 3 1 0 2 3 6 −3 3
    25 Greece B 3 1 0 2 2 5 −3 3
    26 Italy F 3 0 2 1 4 5 −1 2
    27 Nigeria B 3 0 1 2 3 5 −2 1
    28 Algeria C 3 0 1 2 0 2 −2 1
    29 France A 3 0 1 2 1 4 −3 1
    30 Honduras H 3 0 1 2 0 3 −3 1
    31 Cameroon E 3 0 0 3 2 5 −3 0
    32 Korea DPR G 3 0 0 3 1 12 −11 0
     
  21. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    West Germany (the Federal Republic of Germany) and Germany (the Federal Republic of Germany) are the same country. The re-incorporation of the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) did not change that. The Federal Republic of Germany has the same government it had prior to the re-incorporation.
     
  22. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    A little Geography now.... :)


    Bundesrepublik Deutschland - Federal Republic of Germany (1)

    Deutsche Democratische Republik - German Democratic Republic (2)


    2 dissolved and was taken over by 1 in 1990.

    The DFB, which has always been the national football team's board of 1 has remained unchanged since 1900.


    [​IMG]
     
  23. domingo

    domingo Member

    Jun 26, 2002
    Hanover
    Club:
    FC Hansa Rostock
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The mentioning of WEST german titles is just trolling. Don't hop on it. :)
     
  24. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I don't think so. Some people just put it there because they think that it was a slightly different country.
     
  25. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I know it's the same country. I put West in parentesis only to acknowledge the difference from East Germany, which also has participated in the World Cup. It's like if North and South Korea get back together and are called Korea, and we are talking about South Korea's accomplishments, I might put South in parentesis to differenciate them from the North, which also has participated.

    Anyway, my point was that it matters above all how many WC titles we won, but it also matters quite a bit how long it's been since we've won a WC title. I'm sorry if the name clarification distracted from that.
     

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