FIFA Club World Cup: UAE 2018 [R]

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  1. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Another emerging theme after last night is the African representative always losing in all-Arab matches against Asian clubs. Every single time so far:

    2000 Raja Casablanca (Morocco) - Al Nassr (Saudi Arabia) 3:4
    2005 Al Ittihad (Saudi Arabia) - Al Ahly (Egypt) 1:0
    2011 Espérance Tunis (Tunisia) - Al Sadd (Qatar) 1:2
    2018 Espérance Tunis (Tunisia) - Al Ain (UAE) 0:3

    As for Liga MX, it has now represented CONCACAF 13 times since the competition format changed in 2005. In six of those CWC editions it failed to progress beyond the quarterfinal stage. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for a league that holds itself to high standards.
     
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  2. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    [​IMG]

    Real Madrid have arrived in Abu Dhabi to defend their title. Looking ahead to the upcoming matches...

    5th Place: Espérance Tunis - CD Guadalajara
    Once Mexican pride is hurt their clubs approach this game with a mindset of vengeance. Mexico's record is spotless in the 5th place match. Unlike CAF, who's representatives more often than not completely deflate after their tires are punctured in the quarterfinals. I see no reason for this game to be any different.

    SF#1: River Plate - Al Ain
    Al Ain are gathering momentum after a scrappy opening playoff and get to play this semifinal in their home stadium. I believe they have the tools to upset River Plate on a good day. The main question is how the Gallinas (hens) have recovered after their fourth Copa Libertadores triumph over hated rivals Boca Juniors. Not just physically but also emotionally. The fiasco around the Libertadores second leg must have been very draining. They did arrive in the UAE quite early (coming directly from Madrid) so maybe they did get the opportunity re-focus.

    UAE hosts have been on an upwards trajectory:

    2009 Playoff Round (Shabab Al Ahli)
    2010 Quarterfinal (Al Wahda)
    2017 Semifinal (Al Jazira)
    2018 Final? :D

    SF#2: Kashima Antlers - Real Madrid
    Kashima got their opportunity to play the Merengues once again after taking them to extra time in the 2016 CWC final. This time as Asian champions. In 2016 they started the game with eleven Japanese players. This time they have some international quality in Serginho to further strengthen the team. Real Madrid have been quite underwhelming this season after Ronaldo has left. They barely beat Rayo Vallecano 1:0 at home before getting on the plane and more embarrassingly, lost 3:0 at the Bernabeu to CSKA Moscow in the final UCL group match just days before. Can Kashima Antlers make Real Madrid sweat?
     
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  3. tomoyuki

    tomoyuki Member

    Dec 19, 2017
    Kashima will struggle this time. They lost 2 key players (Suzuki who is Kashima's top scorer and Misao who is a NT midfielder) before the tournament. I was surprised Kashima beat Guadalajara without them.
     
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  4. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    [​IMG]

    Given how River Plate struggled to get past hosts Sanfrecce Hiroshima in 2015 I doubt they will make the mistake of looking past Al Ain:

     
  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    How Al Ain can stun River Plate to reach the final (The National)
    The article raises an important question. Should Al Ain play the now fully recovered Marcus Berg or stick to a tactical approach that enables Caio and Hussein El Shahat to hit River Plate on the counter with fast breaks?
     
  6. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Its amazing just how poor Liga MX clubs are in this competition...

    Then if you think that MLS clubs can't compete with the Mexicans, how bad must they be? I know both leagues are improving and can sign many top players like Atlanta United getting Pity Martinez, but these north american sides need to realize its not about just expensive signings. If you have 2 or 3 players making 10 times more than the rest of the team, its probably not gonna work. Sure, you can win your mickey mouse league, but in international competition, you need more than that.

    As for River's match, its true that we struggled 3 years ago against the host nation, but I think the team was just nervous and uptight. This time, i believe we have a team that is just going to enjoy and won't feel the pressure. Beating Boca means no matter what happens, our players will be legends. In 2015, to achieve immortality they needed to beat Barcelona, because beating Tigres is not what the fans consider a massive achievement, it was much more difficult to overcome Boca in the Round of 16, Cruzeiro int he QFs and Libertad in the semis than to beat Tigres 3-0 in the rain.
     
  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Real Madrid has been limping of late, so they're vulnerable. On the other hand, I'm not sure River's style would help them to win such a final. And they have to get past the locals first, always a difficult task.
     
  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Halftime. Esperance - Chivas 1:1. Two penalties. Remember, placement matches have no extra time.

    Heading to Al Ain now...
     
  9. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Esperance takes 5th place, beating Chivas in (by the sounds of it) a very exciting penalty shootout.
     
  10. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    It was terrible. Utter disgrace, embarrassment, and unmitigated disaster.

    Jared, what is your take
     
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  11. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    If it's any consolation, Toronto FC wouldn't have done better
     
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  12. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Halftime. River Plate lead 2:1 after conceding in the 3rd minute. Al Ain with a disallowed goal just before halftime. Should be a good second half!
     
  13. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The goal was rightfully disallowed so its not really even worth bringing up. Nowadays with the VAR, linesman are told to keep the flag down just in case so the VAR can correct any mistake, and thats what happened here.

    That being said, our defense is a mess.

    We are looking very good going forward, Borre was definitely missed in the Final in the Bernabeu. He is a true goal poacher. The match may not even have gone to extra time had he been there.
     
  14. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I watched a lot of the CONCACAF champions league last spring, it was really entertaining and exciting. Chivas were not the best team though, other MX and MLS sides were better. Not to take anything from them, they won it fair and square, but I think it was upset (although admittedly hard to back that up with two legged aggregate series, so fair enough, maybe I'm wrong).
     
  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  16. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #66 Paul Calixte, Dec 18, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2018
    Ladies and gentlemen, the Club World Cup: where you can be temporarily down 3-0 to Team Wellington and have a go at River Plate a week later :ROFLMAO:
     
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  17. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    2:2 heading into extra time and anything seems possible. An upset lies in the air, especially after River Plate missed a penalty.
     
  18. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, this game proves that the rest of the world has no business at this tournament and we should go back to the Intercontinental! /s :rolleyes:
     
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  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Since when is Khalid Eisa so good? Today the Al-Ain keeper has been formidable, but in the Asian Champions he was unimpressive, I remember Al-Duhali putting eight past him in two games.
     
  20. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    And we are headed to penalties!
     
  21. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    After all that trouble, are River going to blow this ?
     
  22. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Al Ain seem to be placing the ball.
    River are simply smashing the ball and hoping.
     
  23. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Wow Wow Wow!!!
     
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  24. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  25. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Al Ain in the final!!!
     

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