News: FIFA Approves Tyler Boyd's One Time Switch to The USA

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  1. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Awesome! I like this dude. However, he is already 24 years old, this next year is going to be huge for him at the club level in terms of his ceiling. I think he’ll be around the 11 and definitely in the 18 for the time being.

    Thumbs up to Earnie and Gregg.
     
  3. la torre

    la torre Member

    Dec 27, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nice pickup. We are in desperate need of wingers. Hopefully will make the gold cup a little more watchable.
     
  4. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's better than our cupcake wingers.
     
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  5. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Memphis, Tn
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if he were going to compete with arriola/weah for who plays opposite pulisic id say great.
     
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  6. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Youtube: Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would presume this means he was promised a spot in the Gold Cup to compel his signature. It's the same difference. Interested to see what he can do there, more so than I was with Kenny Saief. This guy seems like he has really dynamism that we can use. Not just another tweener who we're forcing into a creative role. And he's not a mercenary either.
     
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  7. olephill2

    olephill2 Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Oregon
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is great news. Our current winger pool really is sparse and uninspiring unless Christian Pulisic plays out wide. I haven't seen a lot of Tyler Boyd yet, but I have to imagine he is a significant upgrade over someone like Corey Baird, and I'm guessing he is at least on part with Paul Arriola (who is one of the best wingers in our pool currently).

    Boyd looks to be a wide player with a nose for goal, and that should set him up well as a wide player in Gregg Berhalter's system. Think about the role Ethan Finlay played for Berhalter in Columbus, or the role in which he employed Jordan Morris (who is not a winger) and Baird in recent friendlies earlier this year.

    The jury is still out on another recent one-time switch in (Kenny Saief), but whether due to injuries or lack of quality or fit, Saief hasn't imrpessed me yet when I've seen him play. Boyd helps improve our depth, and based on the rest of the winger pool, he should step right into our 23 for the next couple years until we see how our younger prospects develop.
     
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  8. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good news, considering a number of our attackers, who featured recently, would struggle to make the 1990 World Cup team.
     
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  9. la torre

    la torre Member

    Dec 27, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously. I'm wondering if some of our attackers projected to make this roster would start for Canada or Jamaica.
     
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  10. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's dual-footed and can play LW. That alone already sets him apart from someone like Baird. Boyd's 7.29 WhoScored rating puts him 6th among all attacking mids/wingers in Turkish Super Lig action, just behind 35-year-old Robinho at 7.30. The Super Lig is ranked 10th in UEFA coefficient.

    Boyd has 5 goals and 4 assists in 1157 Super Lig minutes. Arriola and Baird, combined, have 4 goals and 4 assists in 1731 MLS minutes. Arriola and Baird have a combined 7 USMNT caps in 2019.

    The article didn't mention it but not only did he spend his childhood in Santa Ynez, CA, but also his mother is American. So he's clearly American by any reasonable definition. He'd probably be NZ's second-best attacker behind Chris Wood but clearly prefers the US.
     
  11. mattjo

    mattjo Member+

    Feb 3, 2001
    Washington DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Will be interesting to see him play. I haven ever seen him, so have no real idea. Came up through the A League, transferred to Portugal but struggled there, had a good half season loan to a bottom of the table club in Turkey. I never really watched Ankara play much during my 2+ years living there (was a Besiktas fan), but he had a nice second half of the season for one of the weaker Superliga teams.

    Let's see what he has, although not really ready to say he is better than any other p;layer at this point.
     
  12. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Don't know much about Tyler Boyd - in fact, I will confess to often confusing him for Terrence Boyd when I'm skimming an article on American players - and I was curious as to why he hadn't broken through at New Zealand, which - all due respect to the Kiwis - is not exactly a national side that's over-capacity with young talent.

    So I did a little Googling. Details are thin, but it looks like Boyd made his senior All-White debut in March 2014, and then his senior All-White exit in March 2015. He played in all six of the Kiwis' matches in that timespan, but they were all friendlies. After spring of 2015, he was never called up again. This was also the same time when he left New Zealand and its one significant professional team, Wellington Phoenix, for Portugal. Despite being viewed as one of their promising academy talents, he hadn't been getting much playtime at Phoenix, with only 16 starts in 3 seasons.

    Since then, he's basically been in exile from the New Zealand squad, and no one is really sure why. There's speculation that it's either self-imposed or perhaps due to a conflict with Anthony Hudson, then-national coach - or possibly a combination of both. Boyd refuses to discuss it, and New Zealand Football is equally cagey.

    Anthony Hudson resigned in 2017, after failing to qualify for the World Cup, (shortly thereafter hired by the Colorado Rapids and recently fired a couple weeks ago with 8 wins over 18 months). The new coaching staff reportedly reached out to Boyd in 2018, but he apparently informed them he would be staying "off-White" for now.

    I wonder if the timing of his leaving Wellington Phoenix and being exiled from the New Zealand team is not a coincidence. The relationship between the two organizations is fairly close. Perhaps he'd fallen out of favor and decided to leave - or, alternatively, his leaving the Phoenix pissed off the New Zealand coach who decided to punish him. Or maybe somewhere in the middle.

    In any case, it feels like his leaving New Zealand - club and country - was more off-the-pitch reasons than on it. He still misses New Zealand, apparently, and wants to go back - but it won't be in a white jersey.
     
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  13. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
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    I was about to say he did a Johansson but if his mother is American that certainly changes the picture. I'd hate to see another guy sitting at home watching his Kiwis at World Cup while USMNT does another fail. With Aussies in Asia, I guess Kiwis are best bet to represent Oceania if they can win their play off game. I wonder who it is this cycle.
     
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  14. o_OI'm fond of cupcakes:inlove:
     
  15. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    To be fair, Saief hasn't been the same since the injury, botched surgery, and lengthy recovery.
     
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  16. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Boyd has 4 goals and 4 primary assists in 8 starts for WS of 7.62 at LAM/LF. Only two players have averaged a higher WS in at least 8 starts in any of WS's 12 recognized positions..

    He should slot in nicely at left forward.
     
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  17. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    SJ Earthquakes/Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Pleasanton, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He also spent half his life in the USA, and splits his offseasons between the USA and New Zealand.
     
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  18. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Referring to the Turkish Superliga.
     
  19. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any addition that means we see less Corey Baird is good with me.
     
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  20. Dignan

    Dignan Member+

    Nov 29, 1999
    Granada
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, whatever.
     
  21. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Curious that the USSF official page promoted this news, that me says he is in the picture this summer. They usually run a pretty tight and coordinated marketing ship.

    Don’t want to go all Josh Gatt here....but a couple nice YouTube clips is all I’ve seen. Step overs and all. Just sayin..

    Definitely intrigued, and for Gold Cup hell yes. No need to see the same guys....we know the ceiling of Baird, Zardes, Arriola, Saief, Morris, etc. let’s see what he’s got.
     
  22. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Possibly because NZ's regional competition consists of Tahiti, Vanuatu and American Samoa. Nice places to visit no doubt but those games don't pay much because regional TV rights aren't worth a bucket of warm spit.

    And the travel back and forth to Europe can't be easy.

    On the other hand, with the impending expansion of the World Cup, NZ will be guaranteed a spot. Then again, so will the US, and the US has at least a chance to go farther. NZ is a three-and-out side.
     
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  23. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NZ's only competitive in Rugby Union. In everything other sport, they're irrelevant.
     
  24. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    How dare you. It's like no one cares about NZ's achievements in Olympic rowing and sailing.
     
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  25. Magikfute

    Magikfute Member

    Mar 9, 2001
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess there aren’t a lot of cricket fans around here?
     
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