Field conditions Youth Soccer....

Discussion in 'Youth & HS Soccer' started by ppierce34, Apr 18, 2019.

  1. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    Once again here...

    But yes - come save associated football in the United States!

    :eek:
     
  2. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you honestly want to come here and coach, it's probably a good idea to listen to people who have experience dealing with the system you claim to want to join.

    That would require a willingness to learn. Nobody here thinks you're not a real coach, but you're not as special as you think you are. If you could set aside your transparent need to prove your superiority to a bunch of strangers on the internet, you might actually get some insight which would you succeed over here, both professionally and as a coach.

    Here's an interview with another Brit who came over here, identified many of the same issues we've been trying to explain to you, and came up with a plan to address them from the perspective of training competitive, serious players:


    US Soccer and problems – how Prep4Pro deals with them
     
  3. Cantona's Eyebrow

    Dirty Leeds
    Togo
    Oct 8, 2018
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    Still smiling, folks.
     
  4. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know who would lap up his BS and make him a nice living?

    The very upper-middle-class helicopter parents he claims to despise. Clubs that cater to those parents LOVE splashing cash on big-mouthed foreign coaches who talk the development talk. And then recruit a bunch of 6'3" cement-booted athletes to play Route One football just well enough to compete at showcase tournaments.

    Guys like him are a dime a dozen over here. They perpetuate the problem they claim to want to fix.
     
  5. Cantona's Eyebrow

    Dirty Leeds
    Togo
    Oct 8, 2018
    Thank you. That is a reasonable, well written article that unfortunately contained very little that I didn't already know.

    I pride myself on always being willing to learn and develop a growth mindset. I think it's equally important to instil this trait in your players (and also sometimes in soccer parents) :);)!!!!!!
     
  6. Cantona's Eyebrow

    Dirty Leeds
    Togo
    Oct 8, 2018

    Still with the insults. You can't help yourself, can you? :ROFLMAO:
     
  7. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously, man--you've been throwing around insults left and right but somehow when you get a bit of stick in return it's a problem.

    You're an open book.
     
  8. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And yet you've been mocking me and others for saying the same things.

    And you wonder why you're not getting the respect you so obviously crave.
     
  9. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    Oh hell yeah - lots of money to made there!

    He has an accent to go along with the sell - he's gotta be better then anything State side!
     
  10. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    The problem is that in order to coach in the US, you need licensing - D/C/B/A...

    What my kids coach found (he's from Spain) is that the people running these classes are very vocal about dumping the style or approach to coaching that was obtained - in this case, in Spain and adhearing to what the USSF demands in terms of coaching style through these courses.

    So even at the license/course level, we are learning a one size fits all approach towards how to not qualify for the World Cup.

    So very American.
     
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  11. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah. My son had a foreign coach who had been COMPLETELY indoctrinated into the American system. He's the one who instructed the team that they should run around no matter what--even if it made no tactical sense--because that's what college coaches are looking for.

    I'm sure he knew better--he made it clear he knew better--but he also knew how to keep his job.

    My son, as mentioned already, was more than happy to leave that club and figure out his own path.
     
  12. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say the focus on college is the barrier. Would you agree?
     
  13. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    I would say USSF needs to align - or assist in aligning the pyramid and rid us of wasteful leagues - all the while paving a path to college. So yes.

    I want too also see a shift away from the American way we are training and heavily push the open play (free) concept as an addition to rec and travel play.

    Costs have to come down as well.
     
  14. SpiceBoy

    SpiceBoy Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Aug 2, 2017
    I have seen many/most clubs hiring coaches with UEFA licenses and not demanding USSF licenses. If the coach you mention has a UEFA license from Spain some of the material will be the same anyway. It would be interesting to hear from someone who has both, but I know I read that when USSF updated its coaching material in 2015/2016 they "borrowed" material from UEFA but also "Americanized" material.

    Also is he saying that UEFA license does not cover style of play but USSF Licensing does? I find that doubtful.
     
  15. VolklP19

    VolklP19 Member

    Jun 23, 2010
    Illinois
    I think the issue was that he was constantly being told to forget about his training abroad because that won't fly over here.
     
  16. ppierce34

    ppierce34 Member

    Aug 29, 2016
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Girls practiced Wednesday and you could not see their shoes in the grass. It was at least 6 inches tall. Couldnt pass, couldnt dribble but i suppose i'm just being a whiny american spoiled parent.
     
  17. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One season my son's club team couldn't get regular time at any of the over-booked fields so one of their two weekly practices was at an elementary school. Not a field--the school didn't have one. Just the grassy area next to the school. It was...not ideal.

    And yeah--I don't at all mind kids playing pickup wherever they can. But that season I was very much thinking "what the hell am I paying for?"
     
  18. Cantona's Eyebrow

    Dirty Leeds
    Togo
    Oct 8, 2018
    :)
     

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