Expansion Draft 2018

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  1. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The rules have been published by the league.

    Of note:
    • Draft is Dec 11 at noon MT
    • FCC will have 5 picks
    • FCC can NOT pick from the 5 teams that LAFC picked from (CLB, SJ, SEA, SKC, TFC)
    • This is considered a "continuation" of the LAFC draft, so rules will be similar
    • Homegrown players not on the senior roster are automatically protected
    • Designated players are not automatically protected
    • Players with a no-trade clause must be protected
    • Only one player may be selected from a given team
    So, as is always a fun game, who does RSL protect?
     
  2. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For context, this is who we protected last time:
    • KB
    • Glad
    • Horst
    • Mulholland
    • Plata
    • Rimando
    • Rusnak
    • Bofo
    • Savarino
    • LSilva
    • MSilva
    The following were exempt (I'm guessing a few of these changed)
    • Acosta
    • Allen
    • Hernandez
    • Lennon
    • Velazco
     
  3. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    Unless rules changed here, exempt this time should be Lennon, Herrera, Hernandez, Acosta, and Baird.

    I don't really get why we'd protect a free agent, but we did last time. There must be some logic there that I don't understand.
     
  4. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    like every list, our protected list (in hindsight) had a few head scratchers.
     
  5. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would Lennon, Baird, Acosta and Herrera be exempt?
     
  6. Lizzie Bee

    Lizzie Bee Member+

    Jul 27, 2004
    Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remind me how this worked with Yura. Didn't he have a no trade clause? And is he still technically on our roster?
     
  7. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    That would be really funny if RSL has to protect a player for Chicago.
     
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  8. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    They're homegrown players who aren't on our senior roster. The breakdown of who is where is here.
     
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  9. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    They never announced this but I assume he waived his no-trade clause cause he was fine going somewhere else. We don't have to protect him this time since he's not on our roster - we just have to pay him.
     
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  10. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would be sooooooo MLS.
     
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  11. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you. I was thinking that they would be on the Senior roster since they had played quite a bit for the senior team.
     
  12. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks @irondeepbicycle for the roster link

    This is the list of players (I believe) to pick from to protect:
    • Jordan Allen
    • Shawn Barry
    • Kyle Beckerman
    • Tony Beltran
    • Nick Besler
    • Justen Glad
    • Adam Henley
    • David Horst
    • Damir Kreilach
    • Jacob Leeker
    • Ricky Lopez-Espin
    • Luke Mulholland
    • Nedum Onuoha
    • Taylor Peay
    • Demar Phillips
    • Joao Plata
    • Andrew Putna
    • Nick Rimando
    • Pablo Ruiz
    • Albert Rusnak
    • Sebastian Saucedo
    • Jefferson Savarino
    • Luis Silva
    • Marcelo Silva
    • Connor Sparrow
    • Sunny
     
  13. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are my 11 to protect:
    • Kyle Beckerman
    • Justen Glad
    • Damir Kreilach
    • Luke Mulholland
    • Nedum Onuoha
    • Joao Plata
    • Nick Rimando
    • Albert Rusnak
    • Sebastian Saucedo
    • Jefferson Savarino
    • Sunny
     
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  14. stucknutah

    stucknutah Member+

    Feb 14, 2002
    In the Office
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Agreed. And then likely lose either Ruiz (inexpensive young player with skill and a nice left) or Beltran (experienced right back.)
     
  15. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think there is enough out there on Ruiz for FCC to take the risk. yes, he's "inexpensive" (arguable given his numbers) but he doesn't have stats to back being picked.

    I kind of want Beltran to get picked so this fanbase can ********ing move on from him. Tony was a great player. There is NOTHING about this injury and time off that suggests he'll come back to the same player he was. Further, this fanbase will fetishize having him at RB over Lennon despite (assuming we use the same tactics) it being the wrong decision to do so. I don't dislike Tony. I dislike what a lot of vocal fans think he brings vs what he actually brings.
     
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  16. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    I wish I more fully understood how free agency and the expansion draft interact.

    I.e., if we decline Beckerman's option, he's a free agent. If FCC selects him, he could just turn around and sign with us anyway.

    There are certain rights they'd be getting - i.e., there's a cap on how big a raise you can get in free agency, but the original club can re-sign you to whatever amount they want. So FCC could draft him and offer him way more money than we could... but we're surely not going to be offering Beckerman a raise this offseason. At least I would hope not.

    So I can't think of any reason to protect Rimando, Beckerman, or Beltran - they'd all be eligible for free agency so we'd just be able to re-sign them. But last time we did protect free agents so there's presumably some reason to do so.
     
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  17. RSL Wonderbra

    RSL Wonderbra Member

    Jan 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Protect Horst over Attinella. That will clearly pan out well.

    Stupid Timbers always take our cake and it it too.
     
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  18. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s not just the fanbase imo. There is a certain person in a top level leadership position who I am concerned will meddle to make Tony the starting RB, just as he will have KB continue to be a starting DM next year.
     
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  19. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the club would rather not take the risk that FCC make an offer that is too good to pass up. Think of it from any of those three perspective: getting one last HUGE paycheck in a new place that looks to be a pretty damn fun place to play or continue on the negotiated salary here and retire?

    I have no problem with RSL using one of their protected slots on those guys just to avoid the situation. remember, because of the way this draft is setup, the league gave FCC more funny money to play with. They'll use that if the right player is out there.
     
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  20. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    I believe Beckerman was above budget maximum charge for this year. That means that if RSL offers him at least $1 above the budget maximum he loses his free agency status, even if that amount was less than his previous year salary. However, if FCC selects him in the expansion draft, then they would have that option instead of RSL.
     
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  21. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    KB is overpaid as is, but this sheds light as to why the number is what it is. His agent really took Waibel to the cleaners.
     
  22. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    With the news on option exercises released today revealing only 20 remaining rostered players, RSL's protected list becomes fairly academic. Those listed in yellow are exempt because they are non-senior roster HG's. Those in green are almost certainly those that will be protected.


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  23. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it weird I want FCC to take one of those remaining players? It would open cap space that we desperately need. Putna is really the only one I would be sad to go. Which is weird, because just two years ago I was talking up Jordan Allen to be the next big thing. Unfortunately he can't walk outside without getting hurt.
     
  24. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    Corey Baird gets picked if he’s not protected.

    Tough call but I would protect him over Ruiz.
     
  25. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    Would Ruiz really be that tempting?
     

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