Ex FIRE players......

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by firefan2001, May 31, 2014.

  1. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    I agree with this. He was passable by every player with mediocre speed.
     
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  2. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Doh!

    To be fair, I was down on Vincent from early on not because he was completely terrible but because lots of people decided to believe the hype and it was very, very clear he wasn’t all that from early on. I had hopes he could be nurtured into a good player but our organization certainly wasn’t the place to see that happen.

    He wasn’t a good defender (he sucked) but he was a good crosser of the ball and he was certainly a step up from Harrington.
     
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  3. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Agreed.

    The biggest problem with him in there was the increased defensive responsibilities on the wide midfield player on that side. When that player was David Accam (who gave you the best opportunity to win on a decent team), there was an obvious weakness and side of the field to attack. It was amazing how many chances/goals came from attacks from the right against the Fire's left side. On balance, he was an okay MLS quality player. The most maddening thing was that you had one of the best left backs in the league and let him run off for next to nothing to an eventual champion. That isn't Brandon's fault, but it was pretty obvious that he was a down grade from Joevin Jones. The Fire seem to be pretty good at making changes to their strengths while ignoring their weaknesses.
     
  4. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    By "making changes to their strengths," I presume you to mean:

    "Oh, we are tied and really need a goal to allow the team and the fans to end the miserable season with a win, so we should take out our top goal scorer (39 goals in 69 games) and put in Alan f'n Gordon. Alan should have a run out before he plods and trundles off into the sunset"

    "Oh, we have an incredible, World Cup-winning, Champions League-winning and versatile attacking midfielder, so we will play him in central defense to make room for the 'creative' Brandt Bronico."

    "Oh, we have another double digit goal scorer and our most aggressive attacking player (second on the team in goals and assists), so we should criticize him at every turn. We had better make sure that the front office's pudgy myna bird Danhole Kelly does it as well."

    "Oh, we really need an attacking midfielder, since our $6,000,000 attacking midfielder is playing central defense, so we will sign Yura Movsisyan and pay him close to $2,000,000 to be on the field for 58 minutes over 4 games."

    "Oh, we have one of the fastest wingers in the league, a guy who is a consistent double digit goal scorer, averaging 11 goals and 5 assists a season (but who does not track back on defense all that much), so we should dump him for funny money, but we will keep Luis Solignac, a 'striker' who has scored more than 3 goals in a season exactly one time in his career."

    Etc.
     
  5. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Something like that. :)
     
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  6. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
  7. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Christian Dean retires...
     
  8. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    How can you tell?


    Was even on the team?
    Edit: He was. He played two games this season, on 3/10 and 3/31.
    Last season, he made three appearances in 10 days (8/16, 8/19, 8/26) and that was it. Apparently, he was injured.
    We paid $100,000 for him and he managed five appearances.
    We paid him $93,000 in salary this season.
    Money, well spent, Nelson Rodriguez

    Official Announcement:
    https://www.chicago-fire.com/post/2...er-christian-dean-retires-professional-soccer
    Chicago Fire Defender Christian Dean Retires from Professional Soccer
    A "professional" in that he was paid, that's about it.

    For his "career," he managed to play in 17 games over 5 years, for a total of 1,051 minutes.

    2014-$161,000
    2015-$176,000
    2016-$191,000
    2017-$93,000
    2018-$93,000

    He "earned" $714,000 in his career of 17 games.
    He "earned" $42,000 for every game he played.
    He "earned" $679.35 every minute he was on the field.

    He was the number three pick in the 2014 "Super Draft".
    He was the very definition of the term "Crap Shoot" for the Super Draft.

    By the way, Chicago Fire's first round draft pick in 2014?

    Marco "don't call me Generalissimo Francisco" Franco!
    Yep, a fine pick there.
     
  9. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Players rather retire than play for this team.................SAD..............
     
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  10. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Three this week:
    Alan f'n Gordon
    Christian Dean
    Brandon Vincent

    Interesting that the No. 3 draft pick from 2014 and the No. 4 draft pick from 2016 both retired this week, at ages 25 and 24 respectively.
     
  11. This is what happens when you draft soccer player based on their physique, rather than their football skills.
    Dean i 6'3" 200lbs ... big strong dude ... that can't play for shit.
     
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  12. LIZZIE

    LIZZIE BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 18, 2001
    Sec 126
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From today's Tribune, John Kass' column:

    "Here's how pathetic the Fire were this season. At one game, I could hear frustrated coach Veljko Paunoovic yell at a sad young Brandon Vincent: "Brandon, stop the bull(deleted)! Stop the bull(deleted), Brandon!

    Paunovic's frustration echoed in the near-empty Toyota Park. Vincent retired from soccer just days ago."
     
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  13. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #cf97 legend Matt Lampson won the Humanitarian of the Year for the second time in his career.
     
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  14. You shouldn't waste your time reading what that partisan shill spews.
     
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  15. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    He may not be a good goalkeeper, but there is no denying that he’s a great guy.
     
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  16. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Dude’s kinda a prick, actually.
     
  17. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    In terms of charitable giving.
     
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  18. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    #3093 bunge, Nov 9, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2018
    Yes. I donated to his cause too because its a great and unfortunately needed cause.
     
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  19. Mikebsiu

    Mikebsiu Member+

    Mar 15, 2008
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Can you provide some details? I’m not trying to start anything, just genuinely curious.
     
  20. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Aloof athlete. Nothing out of the ordinary but also not exactly the humble Chicago attitude I would prefer to see around town. I mean, I expect that from athletes, especially second string MLS players. No one’s beating down his door asking for autographs. Don’t act like being recognized is a headache.
     
  21. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Patrick Doody doing color for the IU UConn tourney game on the Big10 Network.
     
  22. He commented on his succesor as IU left back Andrew Gutman, "I was good, but Gutman is special."
     
  23. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    So, he lied?!?;)
     
  24. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gutman is not going to be able to play LB in the MLS.
     
  25. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    So, that makes him special?
    Hell, it seemed like just about anybody could play left back in MLS:
     
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