You're the one talking about never watching the Premier League again if you're club isn't allowed to be handed inexhaustible wealth to win titles and would prefer to see the marginalisation of the domestic leagues if it means your club can win trophies. I've said - repeatedly - that I don't agree with the way the sport is organised in Europe right now and that I oppose a Super League because of what it means for the future of the game. You've ignored that over and over again and refused to actually debate any point. Yes, I've tried to convince you that your arguments are wrong but rather than offer a decent counter argument, you've just responded with a bunch of shite about Man United, when Tottenham would have taken the same path as that club given half the chance and from what you've posted, I'd wager it would be with your blessing. And FYI, I've never taken abuse for my "attitude". Most of the abuse I've taken has been from complete strangers for doing nothing more than wearing a United shirt. In fact, most of it occurred in the mid-nineties when we'd only recently started being successful in the league again and I naively thought that jovially pointing out to ABU wankrs that "it's alright mate, I've always supported them" would be an accepted position. So I don't think we've anymore to discuss with each other. I don't oppose your stance, I just think your solutions are crap and I'm suspicious about what your motives really are. That's all there is to it.