European Elections 2014

Discussion in 'Elections' started by Colm, May 17, 2014.

  1. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    http://www.euvox2014.eu/

    Interesting political compass for the upcoming European Parliament elections. The test shows you which political parties share similar political ideologies to your own.

    For me, i was located near the bottom left

    In UK, Green party were the most similar with 43.8

    In other EU countries the closest to me were

    ERC (Spain) 69.4
    EELV (France) 66.7
    Lista Tsipras (Italy) 62,5
    Grune (Austria) 61.9
     
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  2. mattteo

    mattteo Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Most similar in Italy Lista Tsipras, 36%. Least similar in Italy 'European choice for Verhostadt' (hardline neoliberal and Europeanist coalition), -31%.

    Closest in Europe:

    - PCTP/MRPP (Portugal) 81.5%
    - Vänsterpartiet (Sweden) 76.2 %
    - Socialist Party (Ireland) 68.5%
    - Bloco de Esquerda (Portugal) 66.1%
    - Coligação Democrática Unitária (Portugal) 63.7 %

    Farthest in Europe:

    - Partido Popular (Spain) -52.5%
    - New Slovenia (Slovenia) -36.3%
    - Slovenian Democratic Party (Slovenia) -35.1%
    - Drassi (Greece) -32.1%
    - Partidul Democrat-Liberal (Romania) - 31.0%
     
  3. The Biscuitman

    The Biscuitman Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Vote cast early this morning. I am usually Lib Dem (the only party with a sensible euro policy here) but went Greens this time.

    youGov poll suggesting UKIP on track to come top. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I'm voting later this evening and i'm going to vote the green party, hopefully they'll gain more seats.
     
  5. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    There is a Green party in the UK? (found out it was even established years before the German version. What went wrong?)

    48.8% Unión Progreso y Democracia
    and 4 Spanish parties among the first 8.
     
  6. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Germany:
    Die Linke +50.9
    AfD -21.5

    Europe:
    Europa Anders (A) +70.8
    EELV (F) 68.5
    SLD-UP (PL) 68.1
    ERC (ES) 67.5
    Lenk (LUX) 66.1
    Grüne (A) 66.1

    PVV (NL) -36.9
    Vlaams Belang (BL) -39.9
    DUP (UK) -43.1
    UKIP (UK) -45.8
     
  7. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    [​IMG]

    Dutch exist poll on the European election.

    Both UK and Netherlands voted yesterday, Ireland and Czech republic vote today, most of Europe votes on sunday and that's when all other countries results will be counted.
     
  8. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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    Ouch.
     
  9. The Biscuitman

    The Biscuitman Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Club:
    Reading FC
    'Single issue party', like UKIP. People are happy to vote for them in euro's to push that issue on the EU but no one wants them running the country
     
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  10. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I'd say it's more to do with the voting system, UK general elections use first past the post system which screws smaller parties, European elections use proportional representation which gives small parties a much better chance. If the UK general elections used PR I reckon more people would vote for smaller parties like Green.
     
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  11. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'll have to take your word for it.;)
     
  12. FormerGermanGuy

    Mar 1, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Headline:
    Only when you vote for Martin Schulz and the SPD can a German be president of the EU.

    Then someone named Eva Hitler says something along the lines of "Goebbels approves this message."

    Either that or it's a cookie recipe... my German is quite rusty.
     
  13. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
    Club:
    Club Brugge KV
    Belgium.JPG

    Results for Europe in Flanders.
    Besides N-VAs victory the biggest story over here as been the decimation of Vlaams Belang on all three fronts: regional, federal and European.
     
  14. benztown

    benztown Member+

    Jun 24, 2005
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    I'm a bit late, but there you go:

    Germany:
    AfD: 43.8%
    Linke: -0.4%

    EU:
    PNV-CiU: 47.1% (Spain)
    SaS: 44.4% (Slovakia)
    Reformierakond: 42.3% (Estonia)
    Radikali: 42.3% (Italy)
    D66: 40.5% (Netherlands)

    KKE: -12.5% (Greece)
    FN-Fiamma: -13.1% (Italy)
    Ataka: -15.1% (Bulgaria)
    CDU: PCP/PEV: -17.3% (Portugal)

    In general though, I found the questions lacked a whole lot of nuance, so I found myself oftentimes selecting "neither for nor against", not because I don't have an opinion on the matter, but rather because the question was too simplistic.
     
  15. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    [​IMG]
    UK results without NI.

    the three NI seats went to Sinn Fein, DUP and UUP.
     
  16. benztown

    benztown Member+

    Jun 24, 2005
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    The German results:
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    One German peculiarity: You have to add up the numbers of CDU and CSU, they're the conservative sister parties. The CSU is only up for election in Bavaria, the CDU everywhere else.

    Other than that, the big stories here are of course the eradication of the liberal FDP (though it has come to a point where hardly anyone notices it anymore) and the rise of the AfD (somewhere between conservative and liberal), which is the only party that is critical of the common currency, though as all the others still very much in favor of the EU.

    And of course the SPD (social democrats) pretends to be the big winner and is all smiles.
     
  17. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Germany is one of the few countries where the main parties did well.

    UK (sadley), France, Denmark, Italy and Greece election eurosceptic fringe parties did very well.
     
  18. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    UKIP has taken the political establishment by storm people in England in particular are sick of the 3 establishment trio of LibLabCon. They feel that they have ignored their voice and that their pro-EU and massive immigration plans have hurt the nation. UKIP hard line on immigration and wanting out of the EU has hit a big a nerve with middle England who feel like the political establishmenthas abandoned them and their country is being flooded with outsiders.

    In a France the NF resurgence is even more troubling.
     
  19. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    #19 lanman, Jun 1, 2014
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2014
    You would think that given the media coverage of it, but in truth they only have 370 councillors (out of over 20,000) and 0 MPs. I know the BBC was portraying it as some sort of tidal wave of purple, but they only won 163 seats at the local council elections and even the Lib Dems managed more than double that.
    They've even had to suspend one of their councillors after only 5 days in the job (which must be some kind of record). They do have a tendancy to attract the more "eccentric" candidates.
    They topped the Euro elelctions on a low turnout, but as they don't currntly have any policies other than opposing the EU (after they deleted their 2010 manifesto which promised tax cuts for the rich with increases for those with the lowest incomes) then they fall down when it's time to elect someone who actually has some local or national responsibility.
    As one UKIP councillor put it, they struggle in London (and other major cities) as the electorate are "educated, cultured and young".
    Or Nick Griffin saying that they're voting for "UKIPs racist policies" instead of the BNPs.
     
  20. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I think you underrate their success and their support. There poor results in local elections is because they are still a fringe party. The big 3 will continue to get 80% of the votes because of voter loyalty and voting inelasticity. For UKIP a no nothing party to finish first in the euro elections is quite impressive. I expect them to get either zero MP's in 2015 GE but I expect the Tories to co-opt UKIP message and platform. I expect UKIP to get 10-14% of the vote but because if FPTP get no seats but they cutting the Tory right apart will get Labour into power. The only reason immigration and a referendum on the EU is being discussed is because Of UKIP.
     
  21. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
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    Arsenal FC
  22. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    They didn't come from nothing, they were second in the previous European elections. Much of their success is due to centralising the votes of the minor right wing and anti-EU parties, which dropped by over 1 million from the 2009 elections. Also, these are not great barometers for general elections where local and national matters play far more improtance. UKIP polled over 16% in 2009, then just 3.1% in 2010.

    And in an election that has more of an impact on people's daily lives:

     
  23. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Just to add, there is no doubt they will retain a decent amount of support but the idea that they've changed the face of British politics or that there is a "political earthquake" is simply hyperbole largely propogated by the media.
     
  24. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Agreed they won't break the big 3 stranglehold on the majority of seats hell they might not even get one MP. But unless a major scandal happens or the Tories just co-opt their entire message I see them taking 10%+ of the vote which will sink the Tories.
     

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