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Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by MatthausSammer, Oct 8, 2015.
Arrogant performance but rep Ireland deserved it
I just hope Schurrle doesn't start the next match
Nothing new with this game. Without a towering striker it will be a struggle for this team to score. The players we have are suited for counter attacking play - neither are possible against teams sitting back or when you are behind. You could tell the players had no idea how to unlock this defense. The team needs a plan B. If Gomez is back on form, get him into the team. If not, bring in Kiessling....
Worked just fine at the WC finals. Who gives a s**t about some friendlies and qualifying matches without any consequences...
Kiessling is a terrible option. He offers nothing ATM. Wouldn't like a Gomez callup, but wouldn't be tremendously opposed either.
At this point it looks necessary to find a target forward ala Klose again. They can play this style while even or ahead, but it isn't working against a bunker.
Die Mannschaft gets 4 points out 4 games against Ireland and Poland. Didnt happen when it was still Nationalmannschaft.
I blame the shorts
So in Euro 2016 qualification:
without Schweinsteiger in the line up we're 2-1-2 (W/D/L)
With Schweinsteiger in the line up we're 4-0-0
Don't let MatthausSammer start anymore match threads.
Hey, I'm 1-1 on matchthreads. Borussia Dortmund beat Bayern last season in the DFB Pokal when I started that match thread, and that was on an awful season overall.
Goetziller got shot down down by an RFA Fighter....
Anyways, I don't believe many conclusions can be drawn from this match. Ultimately the team was simply not putting forth the focused effort necessary to beat Ireland today. Gomez or any other target striker would not have changed that IMO.
But that is actually not what happened.
After going behind, more great chances were generated.
It's just Mueller and co did not score them.
I think what we already know is this team is obviously not quite as good as the World Cup version - which also looked terrible in some games
As usual everyone is dwelling on the attack - but the issues are at the back.
What makes me a little bit angry is that most players and Löw said they think they made a good game but just couldnt score. Hilarious! Although Löw admits that there is this one game from time to time when they dont seem to care about scoring on those many chances we get.
I'm not entirely sure how this team is not quite as good. The personnel has remained mostly unchanged, with the exception of FB, which was a weakness during the WC as well, and the addition of Bellarabi, Ilklay and Reus, all of whom are net positives on this team IMO.
The defense over this qualifying has been terrible.
I realise it was also not great at the World Cup either. What I did like about the World Cup side is eventually a very powerful midfield 3 was discovered - although they then ended up not playing the final.
I tend to agree this team is somewhat more balanced if Reus is in form - as then there is a genuine world class high volume shooter to balance with Mueller.
Anyway - a one nil loss away to the Irish is nothing to panic over.
The defence was always terrible in qualifying, though, that just seems to be how Loew rolls these days. Remember the 4-4 draw to Sweden? I would speculate that Loew lets the defensive posture of the team get very lacksadasical during friendlies and qualifying before tightening up in tournaments, so as to not wear out his team.
Yes - i do agree with that. And this qualifying group has a number of decent teams
The real issue of course was the bungled earlier rounds - but win the last game and none of that matters.
The big positives are the re-emergence of Gundo (given the decline of Schweini) and the ongoing development of Mueller into a genuine superstar.
I think the main concern is still whether Kroos at CM is workable defensively - plus the fullbacks
If the penalty area is packed like yesterday you need a more consequent play over the wings and fast paced flat crosses to the center. Also you need to increase the number of shots from outside of the penalty area. To dribble or combine through the center was useless most of the time and it would've been lucky to score this way.
Somebody like Gomez could probably help in a situation like yesterday but isn't needed desperately. You just need to adapt the style of play.
I saw a stat that showed Germany had one shot on target - Boateng's.
e.g. Mueller putting it wide with the goal at his mercy
I believe that was a so called big chance in opta terma
You can draw a conclusion from the overall performance of the qualification - dominate possession, lacking finishing touch with defense that feels will concede a goal with every attack. Yes, the team does not put in the effort in friendlies but always does in qualifications. If you look at the NT's qualification history, they rarely lose 1 game, let alone 2 .