Pre-match: (EURO 2016 - Group Stage) Germany vs. Poland 06.16.2016 [R]

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Lahmfan, Jun 12, 2016.

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if life is 42 (as we discovered in the previous thread) what is death?

  1. 41

    10.0%
  2. 43

    90.0%
  1. Mudig

    Mudig Member

    Mar 29, 2010
    California
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I blame this on the coach. You have NO pacey players on the wing, and you have the likes of Ozil and Gotze playing most of the game even though they must have given away the ball too many times to count. Let's try Sane...let's try Piggy.
     
  2. andydippy

    andydippy New Member

    Oct 11, 2015
    Club:
    Kilmarnock FC
    Id try either 4.4.2 - neuer
    kimmich boateng hummels hector
    sane kroos khedira ozil
    muller gomez
    or

    4.2.3.1 neuer
    kimmich boa humm hect
    schwein khedira
    muller kroos ozil
    gomez
     
  3. NUFCBayern

    NUFCBayern Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2004
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Seemed that way on TV too
     
  4. Fussballer

    Fussballer Member+

    Liverpool FC
    Sep 18, 2002
    In my head
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Sorry you had to see this Scheisse first hand. :eek: Mueller playing out position, Goetze starting, it's a mess up front. If only Lewy was German:rolleyes:
     
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  5. Dhajj

    Dhajj Member+

    Nov 25, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I really don't know what to say about this team anymore from top to bottom..

    We are missing so many pieces and I just can't see this team improving.....

    This has been a shell of a team since August 2014........:/
     
  6. griffithdavid

    griffithdavid Member

    May 30, 2006
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I havent read all of these comments today, but I am sure I know what is being said. I honestly think everyone complaining is off target. I feel like this team is playing the games only as hard as they need to now with the knowledge that this is a long tournament and they dont want to get hurt or worn out to early. They have 2 clean sheets and are in prime position to finish first or second depending on who they want to play the rest of the way(namely France). Neuer is a damn beast with that black jersey and Kroos is unbelievable like I knew he always was.(dont forget that someone in the Bayern forum that Kroos would be a bust at Real Madrid and would drink there own piss if he wasnt. Please send me the youtube video.). Anyways I think we played at half our ability and got the desired result. Muller is making to obvious in fact, because either I am right or he fell on his head recently and is now half retarded. Kinda like there is the practice video of him falling over the ball before it happen in the WC game. So calm down and watch us get to the final as some how we fly under everyones radar again...lol
     
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  7. CDPontaDelgada

    CDPontaDelgada Member+

    CD Santa Clara
    Aug 15, 2012
    Ponta Delgada PT
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I understand Poland are no pushovers but I will say that regardless of your opposition whoever you play the smaller teams have all 11 men behind the ball. it's always going to be difficult to score regardless of the opponents when these bunker defenses come out. Granted Poland also had some great attacks.

    You guys play northern Ireland next and in all honesty it should be a breeze but with the way these teams of been playing bunker football gonna be a lot tougher than you guys think Especially if Gotze plays as a false 9. Don't get me wrong I still think you guys are going to get through and win

    Just look at yesterday's results between France and Albania score line ended up being 2-0 which seems kind of respectable if you just look at the results but if you watch that game that whole entire Albania team had all 11 men behind the ball it's effective but it's not football. With all due respect to the French that game could've certainly ended in a draw and with all due respect to Albania they defended valiantly but they looked absolutely overran and looked out of their depth and looked like amateurs . Same thing can be said about the Spain-Czech game and the Poland-Northern Ireland game where eventually the bunkers were broken but by slim 1-0 wins were it took moments of brilliance to get the lone goal.
     
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  8. BMGuy

    BMGuy Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    vietnam
    We need skillful players to come in to make chaos on the opponents' defense, not the old Schurrle. If Loew doesn't have anything else in tactics, then this tournament will be his last one.
     
  9. Lahmfan

    Lahmfan Member+

    Jun 3, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He extended to 2019
     
  10. Der Müllerschaft

    Jun 22, 2014
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Boateng the only one I care about. He is irreplaceable.
     
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  11. Lahmfan

    Lahmfan Member+

    Jun 3, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    So is Neuer
     
  12. Der Müllerschaft

    Jun 22, 2014
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Uh...yes. But he doesn't have a yellow card.
     
  13. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I thought I read that this would be his last tourney?
     
  14. Lahmfan

    Lahmfan Member+

    Jun 3, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Wc 2018 is. He actually extended till then
     
  15. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Fully Agree with this one......Thats what i said 4-3-3
    problem is Loew just seems like he was in 2012.. just to f@*&6ing scared to make any drastic changes....He should see yes the defense is more stable but cant he see that going forward they are to slow , to unorganized, to lame, not effective at all.
    Problem is they cant switch quickly enough from defense into attack...

    he really needs to change something, but he is to stubborn to do so, in the end he will say yes I should have realized earlier that there was a problem...(Remember 2012)...
    One thing is for sure Goezte has no place right now where he is playing, every ball he has he looses ... no value add there at all.
    Muller not sure why he is not linking up nicely.. is it because of Hoewedes?
    Ozil also not really playing those killer passes he used....
    Draxler well here and there but just not good enough.....
    Hector.... ? No idea he is busy hard working but who knows...
    BOA and Hummels are solid
    Kroos Solid
    Khedira I guess ok, but he also is at fault for not getting the offense up quickly enough.

    What happened to germanys attacking football?:sleep::cry::cry::cry::cry:
     
  16. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If the players intented to play like this then why was Boateng on fire and others unhappy with the game? 0:45
     
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  17. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #242 BorisG, Jun 17, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2016
    MHHHH....
    I recon Jogi needs to field this...
    --------------Neuer----------------
    Howedes/Boa/Hummels/Hector
    -----Schweinie---Kroos-----------
    Oezil----------Muller---------Goetze
    -----------------Gomez

    I guess Defense is as good as it gets, although I think Hoewedes just does not provide enough upfront
    Khedira not good enough ... Schweinie hopefully better
    Muller should move to the center this is where he plays most often and scores most often.
    Oezil has to move the wings.. and maybe Goetze will do better on the wing as well.
     
  18. BMGuy

    BMGuy Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    vietnam
    no no, no more Gotze please. Why no 4-1-4-1 like Bayern and other bundesliga teams are using, Germany are weak down the flanks, so put 1 more guy upfront could fill the void.

    --------------Neuer----------------
    Kimmich/Boa/Hummels/Hector
    -----------Kheidira---------
    Oezil-----Muller----Kroos-----Draxler
    -----------------Gomez

    Kimmich could move upfront to play along side with Kheidira in the center when needed.
     
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  19. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Would like that ... as well With kimmich playing ... Maybe replace Khedira with Schweinie....
     
  20. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Some how I have the feeling LOEW is going to f*#$ this Euro up... he is just not making those critical good decisions...
    Why has he not tried a Kimmich or a SANE, he wasted a substitution yesterday.
    He played it safe , and he wanted to make sure we get the draw at least... he did not risk to say lets win this and put on a SANE for a khedira is the last 10 minutes... try and play for a win....
    Thats not winning ,mentality and trusting every member on the squad.
     
  21. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  22. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Khedira wouldn't work as a 6. He's not strong enough on defence, nor is he positionally disciplined enough. His major asset is the fact that he's a box-to-box guy who has an endless motor to both go forward and help on defence. Playing him at 6 only utilizes half his game, and it doesn't allow him to be a strong enough player for him to start for us. We have multiple natural 6s; both Kimmich and Weigl are raring for their shot, and if you want experience in the role, Schweinsteiger may be able to do the job.

    I sound like a broken record here, but until we switch to a 4-3-3, put a natural 6 in, put Mueller or Gomez up front, and look at replacing Hoewedes at RB, I struggle to see how we achieve the kind of consistently strong level of performance we need to win this tournament.
     
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  23. P to the Wee

    P to the Wee Red Card

    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I was on the other side m9
     
  24. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Of course but you wanted 27 million tv viewers to see the flag
     
  25. Cuppo

    Cuppo Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I agree. Here's why Bellarabi should've nominated, probably in the place of Podolski. Yesterday he would've added the missing pace on the right wing while Müller replaces useless Götze as well.
     

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