Ethnic diversity on the MNT

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which of the current U-20 roster were born to African/Caribbean parents? Edited: Jeremy Ebobisse is one.
     
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  2. salvikicks

    salvikicks Member+

    Mar 6, 2006
    Los Angeles
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    I meant overall not just the current u-20.
     
  3. salvikicks

    salvikicks Member+

    Mar 6, 2006
    Los Angeles
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Isn't he second generation since his dad is first generation.
     
  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought his dad was born in Morocco.
     
  5. salvikicks

    salvikicks Member+

    Mar 6, 2006
    Los Angeles
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Pulisic's grandfather?
     
  6. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    2nd Generation American, 3rd Generation Immigrant. It's one of those things that gets jumbled quickly if people aren't clear on the designation.
     
  7. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But what about his remaining 3 grandparents? Assuming they aren't immigrants, which designation sticks? Is he 25% 2nd Generation American, 25% 7th Generation American, etc.?
     
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  8. salvikicks

    salvikicks Member+

    Mar 6, 2006
    Los Angeles
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    United States
    I don't know about his other grandparents but maybe that one grandfather was enough influence when it comes to loving the sport. Most Americans grow up loving certain sports because of the culture they grow up in, a lot of us born to immigrants love the sport our parents/grandparents loved. My point with Pulisic is because his grandad brought the game with him it's likely his dad loved the sport (which he did because he played in college). It's cliche to say "it's in his blood" but sometimes that's how it feels.
     
  9. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    His mother played college soccer too. Trying to make a complex issue simple won't work.
     
  10. salvikicks

    salvikicks Member+

    Mar 6, 2006
    Los Angeles
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    No I agree, it's not simple at all. There are way too many factors that go into the identity and growth of the USMNT.

    I can talk about it all day though :cautious:
     
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  11. Sactown Soccer

    Jul 29, 2007
    Redding
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Ah yes, when I moved from Sacramento 2 and a half hours up the road to Redding I had this argument a few times.
     
  12. HugoPerezUSA

    HugoPerezUSA Red Card

    Dec 14, 2016
    A team full of Latino Americans that played for the US will be solid with Ramos, Reyna and Perez in the middle... too much skill...
     
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  13. salvikicks

    salvikicks Member+

    Mar 6, 2006
    Los Angeles
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Sucks I never got to watch Perez.
     
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  14. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Kinda like BJ Penn.
     
  15. ayers

    ayers Member

    Jul 9, 2002
    somewhere
    Isn't Klinsmann Jr's mother Chinese American?
     
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  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    What is Acosta's ethnic heritage?
    Thanks in advance..
     
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  17. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

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    Somerville, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Yes, but Acosta sounds like a Latino last name and not Japanese. :p
     
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  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    His paternal grandfather is from Mexico. He married a Japanese woman, and their son (Kellyn's dad) was born in Japan, with a Latino last name: Kenneth Acosta.

    Kenneth came to America and married an African-American woman, Kanikah Perry, and Kellyn was born Mexiblasian in Texas, just like his younger siblings Kenny & Kenley.

    And yes, looks like his family has a thing for the letter K.

    PS: He's said he has family in Mexico too:

    https://www.ussoccer.com/players/2014/03/15/05/10/kellyn-acosta
     
  20. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Diversity at its Finest
     
  21. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    The Spaniards got around :devilish:
     
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  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #197 xbhaskarx, Apr 20, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2017
    Here's an example of that:

    Five Things to Know About MNT Midfielder Kellyn Acosta

    Kellyn Acosta was born to Kennith and Kanikah on July 24, 1995 in Plano, Texas – just 13 miles from the future site of Toyota Stadium where he would spend some of his most formative years in development with the FC Dallas Academy.

    Interestingly, Acosta’s grandmother was Japanese and his father was also born in the Land of the Rising Sun, a lineage that would have made him eligible to represent the Samurai Blue.

    Who knew we had so many part-Asians in the USMNT pool...

    Edit: I see this was already discussed here, it was news to me.

    Yes, another part-Asian goalkeeper, this one a bit younger and a bit taller though...
     
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  23. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to the data above, apparently African Americans do choose soccer at a rate that matches their percentage of the US population.

    From google: Non-Hispanic whites make up 63 percent of the U.S.; Hispanics, 17 percent; blacks, 12.3 percent; Asians, 5 percent; and multiracial Americans, 2.4 percent.

    MLS is the most diverse, but MLB appears to most closely match the US demographics, with MLS a close second... that big chunk of MLS that is labeled "other" makes things complicated.
     
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  24. Ruben Rivas

    Ruben Rivas Member

    Madrid
    United States
    Apr 1, 2017
    Miami
    Spaniards have bunch mixes in them.

    Spanish are a big mix of meditarrean, Moors, Jewish, celtics, visigods, romans, phenicians...

    New York may be the most diverse city in the US followed by Los Angeles or San Francisco. Here in Miami, we are mostly hispanics, too many pretty women here
     
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  25. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
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    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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