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Discussion in 'Mexico' started by sidspaceman, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. Colima24

    Colima24 Member+

    Jul 28, 2005
    Villa de Alvarez
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    El Cuauh has forgotten more about futbol than you and I combined. I will take his wise assessments over any biased ones here.
     
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  2. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Obviously he forgot a lot about football if he puts scrubs like Zague, Oribe and Luis Garcia over Chicharito. He must have taken a few shots to the head to have missed something so obvious...

    He gets a pass for putting himself over Chicharito but not those other three duses.

    Empirical evidence is your friend...
     
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  3. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Which is precisely why I don't troll (except occasionally in NSR;)).

    Glad we understand each other.
     
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  4. Skuzzy

    Skuzzy Member+

    Feb 15, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    10/10 list by Cuauhtémoc, wouldn't change a thing.

    Gold medal > máximo goleador tbh fam
     
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  5. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Missed one ;)

    But other than that, great list
     
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  6. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    actually i'd have put Borg over Hernandez. he peaked too early imo.
     
  7. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Borgetti was a tronco.
     
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  8. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    people have made that claim, and i`m not talkin about me lol
     
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  9. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Same could be said about Chicharito..
     
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  10. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No. He's much faster. While he's not a superb dribbler by any means, he's not remotely as bad with the ball at his feet as people make him out to be.

    Besides, goals are the most important measuring stick for a striker.

    Aside from Hugo Sanchez, what other Mexican striker came close to as many goals in top leagues as Chicharito?
     
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  11. Phenom

    Phenom Member+

    Apr 9, 2007
    Oregon
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Oribe over Chicharo? WTF...

    Even Gio should be over Oribe.
     
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  12. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No one.. But that is not the reason I said that Chicharito can be classified as a Tronco too..

    Just because he has scored in multiple leagues in Europe doesn't make him better than others. The same way Jared is not being compared to Hugo..

    Top Leagues is the Measuring stick now? That is not what Cuauh based his ranking on..
     
  13. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Why wouldn't the quality of a league factor into an objective analysis of a player?

    Under almost any objective measure, Chicharito has consistently proven himself a better player than every player in that group except for Hugo Sanchez. I think Cuauhtemoc is also underrated and would love to have seen what his career trajectory would have been had that one Trinidadian duse not destroyed his leg...


    Should I suppose that its a coincidence that the only people who don't give Chicharito his proper due all happen to support the same club?

    I'm not saying all Americanistas are haters. I know of a few here who aren't. But almost all haters are Americanistas...

    or spazzos.
     
  14. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I dont rate Oribe higher because he plays for America. or I root for America.. It is that he doesnt dissapears when it matters most.

    His legs dont shake. (London 2012)

    He has better abilities than Chicharito.

    Go back and hear what Cuau said. Its a shame he started late. He also metiones that his list was in no specific order and always said in his belief.
     
  15. Phenom

    Phenom Member+

    Apr 9, 2007
    Oregon
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    lol Oribe was shit for most of the Olympics mate. He did step up at the end but we were nearly eliminated because he kept missing.

    Anyways, not point arguing with you. No point arguing this at all, TBH. There's no argument to be made for Oribe over Chicharo.
     
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  16. Lyrical S.

    Lyrical S. Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Morelia, Michoacan
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    LOL... no

    Exactly.. I just dont get why people get their panties up in a bunch when someone clearly explained why they rate someone like they did.. Get over it..
     
  17. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    wrong. Cheech is better, but its outrageous to say the Oribester might be better. He is better on the NT no? Cheech scored more goals but not as important come to mind. Even his goal against France, even if he didn´t score it Mexico would have won 1-0 thanks to Cuauhtemoc´s goal amirite @Colima24 ? :D:sneaky:
     
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  18. AMLO2018

    AMLO2018 Member+

    West Ham United
    Mexico
    Jul 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    #3293 AMLO2018, Sep 28, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2017
    Hernandez & Borgetti score against juggernauts like Brazil, Italy, Argentina, France, Spain, Uruguay, Portugal, Netherlands

    Something bums like Gio or subpar versions of CH such as Peralta and raul jimenez do against only 1 of them
     
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  19. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    And how many gold medals Hernandez or the Borg win us exactly?

    :D:p
     
  20. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    NOT outrageous btw >_>

    @Baysic :barefoot:
     
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  21. Serg33

    Serg33 Member+

    Jul 11, 2007
    Why are Luis Hernandez and Pelaez even options? lol
     
  22. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Matador did score 4 goals in a single WC. Should've been 5 :cry:
     
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  23. Baysic

    Baysic Member+

    Jun 11, 2009
    The Bay Area, CA
    Club:
    Club América
    I'm bout to cook these fools dawg <_<
     
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  24. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    You Korean or taquero in DF?
     
  25. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Where are all those important goals that Oribe scored for the NT against top quality that Chicharito hasn't?

    The olympics is the only thing that Oribe has over the others and to be fair, it was an u23 tournament and he was a senior player.

    Borgetti wasn't a tronco even if Chicharito is a better player.
     
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