? PSV had to offer €393k, which is about GBP 350k. It would be about $480k. Edit to add: Non EU/EEA players need a work permit in order to play professional football in the Netherlands. The basic principle is that a work permit is only issued if is non-EU/EEA player who is: 18 or 19 years old signs a contract with a basic salary of € 197.308,- gross per year; 20 years or older signs a contract with a basic salary of € 394.616,-gross per year.
I would take Option B if it was playing football. If it was to do my job now? Of course option A would be preferable.
1.5 * avg eredivisie wage 2017/2018 = 1.5 * 278,500=417,750€€=484,590 $$ Gemiddeld eredivisie-inkomen voor seizoen 2017-2018: 278.500 euro ... https://www.ed.nl/.../gemiddeld-eredivisie-inkomen-voor-seizoen-2017-2018-278-50... 27 jun. 2017 - Gemiddeld eredivisie-inkomen voor seizoen 2017-2018: 278.500 euro. EINDHOVEN - Spelers in de eredivisie verdienen komend seizoen gemiddeld 278.500 euro. Met dat gemiddelde rekent althans het UWV bij de vaststelling van de salarissen voor spelers van buiten de Europese Economische Ruimte.
I think that would be a poor "business" decision. A bird in hand and all that. Maybe the kid is all that, but the more time that goes by without him working one has to wonder if he didn't get the deal of a lifetime. Many posters here talk like, "well if I could play football for a living I would do x," and I think they are lying to themselves. If you play football for a living it becomes a job, and a job is work, and work is hard. Most folks want to make as much as money as they can at their job and very very few people take significantly less money for similar jobs and working conditions.
There are some of us who simply desire a job that we can love and appreciate regardless of the $$$ so long as we can have respect and joy. but what do I know,
Okay, so I am pretty sure most anybody could learn to enjoy making a trip to the mailbox every week and picking up the pay packet. If you are a decent human being and keep the yard mowed and your house looking good your neighbors will respect you, if you need all that external validation. Some might prefer to toil away in some shit league on shit pitches for shit wages and knowing they are only as good as this outing. But to each their own I guess.
I don't know that it is all that different though, when the money is multiples of what most make in a lifetime.
I was actually talking below that level, but I suppose qualitative evaluations are subject to the evaluator. MLS if If understand it correctly MLS has gotten more in line with most "B" level league wages in the last four years. YMMV
It's still 2 weeks to the deadline, so still time for a surprise quality move. But regarding to your remark one can wonder if grabbing the biggest pay for this moment could be detrimental to the long term total earnings. He secured a guaranteed 4.5 years paycheck. If I go by the numbers mentioned earlier he has secured between 2.5-3.5 million$$. That's in the bag. But what if the "path" doesnot work out? Given the fact that ManCity is one of the 10 top spending clubs on transfers and the pressure on getting results is for any coach in charge paramount, not developing/giving prodigies an opportunity to slot in gradually. Just think about the bidding war with Liverpool for a player on the cd spot. Only because Virgil van Dijk had his eyes on Liverpool he ended there. So the message from that is you only come in at that spot if you have proven yourself in fierce competition and battles in matches of quality. The bar for a ManCity cd spot only will go up further more in the next few years. So where on earth are you going to get a spot in a loan situation that brings you there? You either have to play in the epl and prove yourself in battles with the top 8 clubs (obviously impossible) or you have to be in Europe with a club that plays CL or minimal EL and going far. But all those clubs demand instant performance capability proven by your cv if you're going into the cd slot and no, youth tournements and D2 level matches arenot. And why would those clubs develop a player, putting worth on him plus paying CFG for the "privilege" to do it, while they can do the same for a player being theirs. The only reason to pay for a player on loan is when you have a hole to plug immediately, but then your cv comes on the table too. Matt Miazga would in that case be in front of you. So your situation probably is going to keep you on the paycheck level you signed for. Let's look at what could have happened if he had chosen the August 2017 offer. Mind you, all the clubs mentioned in relation to EPB in the 2017 saga all had the same American source. Nobody has shown me an insider source from those clubs mentioning the clubs were in the cue. In fact the only non American source mentioned was by me, when I reported the August'17 PSV offer to EPB. If EPB had accepted that offer, he would have a contract for 2 years with a salary of around 480,000$$ a year. He most likely would replace Obispo in the Young PSV squad, who was on his way to the 1st team. Many in here would start moaning about how terrible that would be, playing in the Dutch D2 level. Yeah, right. Per Schuurs, the youngest ever captain in our pro soccer history of Fortuna was scouted by big clubs like Liverpool, Bayern, Borrussia etc. He chose to stay in the NL and signed a pre contract with Ajax. EPB would have gotten the opportunity to prepare himself for the first team with a club that has the drive to get him to that level, because it benefits the club, both in financial terms and in having a player in line to step up to the plate when the current crew moves on (what will happen soon). His outlook would be much better and he hardly would have any fnancial fall out at all. Let's look at what happens if you play well in a cd spot in a Dutch top club. Feyenoord's defense was battered by injuries, so much we had to place a midfielder, Peruvian international Tapia, on the cd spot. It surprised Peru fans he did well in that spot: feyenoordsoccerfan said: ↑ Tapia made it into the team of the week of "de Telegraaf Telesport". Dominican Lou said: I, for one, am pretty shocked. Whenever he got put as central defender at Twente and even with the Peruvian youth teams he was pretty poor. He also was voted in the best 11 of December ‘17 Then he appeared on the radar of clubs for that spot: Olympique Marseille seems to have Renato as a target, after his performances in the defense. http://www.footmercato.net/flash-mercato/info-fm-l-om-surveille-renato-tapia_217995 http://www.voetbal4u.com/2018/01/14/toptransfer-marseille-biedt-tien-miljoen-voor-feyenoorder/ So playing in the cd spot for a Dutch club in the CL gets you noticed, even if the club itself was underwhelming in the group. Getting noticed by top league clubs also means at least double your pay. So how much is that check in the bag still a lure? This is my analysis and without a doubt some fanboys are going to be very upset, but it is based on facts, not wishfull thinking.
Yes, but City seems to just be stockpiling talent. If he does well on loan, he could very easily be sold. It's what happened to Aaron Mooy. The expectation was that he was going to go on loan to begin with. He just chose to get a bigger paycheck upfront. IMO, the argument is how motivated will the team he gets loaned to be to help him get to the next level. The comparison seems to be if he went to PSV, got paid less vs going to FC Twente (hypothetical) on loan and got paid better. What he does at the dutch club and how much playing time he gets will be the bigger factor on where he moves next. If he goes on back to City as a first team player, he likely gets a pay bump. The risk he is taking is hoping that whatever club he goes on loan to values him as a player to give him playing time / time to develop when they get nothing from him other than being a talented warm body. Is that risk worth the money he gained?
I'm a US fan and I don't feel that way. In fact, I'm pretty much completely against signing with a Prem club until you're proven in a quality league beforehand. Pulisic moving to one of the biggest clubs is one thing. He's a proven commodity. For most others moving to a club at the highest level you can get playing time should be the priority. For EPB given his age and pedigree I'd have advised him to look towards the continent. Belgium. Holland. France. Germany. That he was/is a free agent makes this even crazier. That he doesn't even qualify for a WP as Cameron, Yedlin and Miazga did adds yet another level of crazy.
Got a trick question for the lot of you. If you are sent away by a Dutch top club as being wanting in quality as a 21 year old, how high do you rate the odds you become a defender in one of the epl top 5 clubs?
Tedesco was going to try out McKennie at CB because he is worried about depth there with 2nd half of season getting started and Schalke in CL contention on present position in table. EPP is a better CB than McKennie. Duh.
Well, we actually can´t know this, can we? Has McKennie ever played the position? He might be a natural. More on point, he has right now what EPB needs, a manager who believes in him and wants to get him on the field however he can. Well, that and a club...
If he really signed in septembre with ManCity, he isnot. What's being referred to as a pre contract is a contract, nothing more, nothing less. Every contract you sign is a pre contract, as you never can sign after the date it is supposed to kick in. That would be fraud.
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