The Odyssey continues: Erik Palmer-Brown at Panathinaikos

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  1. INKRO

    INKRO Member+

    Jul 28, 2011
    Presumably because he's contracted to SKC. I don't believe Flores or Rubin were contracted to any team at the time they went to where they did, so they could do the whole pre-contract thing.

    Here's a thought, since it's Italy he's nominally potentially going to, if they want him that badly then maybe Juventus should just buy half of his rights with SKC retaining getting a fee as well as a sell-on fee rights so he could be shared between Turin and Kansas City. That way Sporting still has an interest in developing the guy since he can't be in a UEFA country until his 18th birthday, and Juve isn't stuck with someone they can't play on the continent for like 2 years.
     
  2. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    They already have a significant interest in developing him and the majority of that interest has nothing to do with Europe or any purchase of his rights. Alot of us forget but his onfield performance is worth more long term than any purchase of his rights.
     
  3. INKRO

    INKRO Member+

    Jul 28, 2011
    This is absolutely true, but I'm talking about in a scenario where EPB might actually want to do any sort of leaving, which is something that's hardly a sure thing tbh.

    I'm still bewildered at why Juventus wants this done so quickly, I don't really see their endgame on this since they'd be better served just coming back in 2 years.
     
  4. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    My take that if they come to some pre agreement they get an asset well below market rate in 2 years. Heinemann isn't a dumb businessman and knows this. Love this stuff, but we don't know what we don't know.
     
  5. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let Juve keep bidding until they stop. That'll give you a very good idea at what they are willing to pay for him.
     
  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My understanding is that due to his age, there can be no binding contract between the kid and Juve.

    So it'll be teh awesome when he turns 18, refuses to sign a permanent deal with Juve and goes back to SKC!!! Sort of like the Sex Pistols' great rock'n'roll swindle.
     
  7. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Presumably so that they can get him locked up before other big clubs in Europe discover him. Perhaps they feel that in 2 years the price for him could be much higher as well.

    You would only do this if your scouts tell you that this is a special player that needs to be locked up now.

    We've seen this type of thing before. For instance when Hoffenheim signed Joseph Gyau and Charles Renken before they turned 18. They paid Vancouver to let them train there until they were able to go over.

    In theory something similar would happen here.
     
  8. El Michael

    El Michael Member

    Dec 17, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Certainly there were more than a few scouts at the Copa Del Atlantico who scouted Erik, but Tommy Redding as well. iirc it was Redding who finished 7th in voting for best player. Pretty good for a 97 CB.
     
  9. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    What's interesting to me is that in order Juve to use one of their precious foreign player transfer slots on EPB, they must think he's superior to the CBs they can get in other parts of the world.

    Last I knew Serie A clubs were restricted to two non-EU transfers each year. If you're going to use one slot to sign a teenage American defender that will be years away from starting instead of say a South American or African that could actually help your first team right away..............................then you've gotta think that kid is damn special.
     
  10. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    But do those non-EU slots count if he's only getting registered for their youth academy? I know that Primavera teams in Italy have lots of African players, for example.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I'm an ignorant troglodyte when it comes to Italian football. You're the expert!!!
     
  12. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    they must. i'd imagine that the first team is registered separately from the reserves and youth. plus if he trains at juve for x number of years (3?) between 18-21 or something he counts as a home grown player for champs league registration.
     
  13. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The bigger clubs in Italy usually pay smaller clubs to use their non-EU import slots, right?
     
  14. El Michael

    El Michael Member

    Dec 17, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Yea that's a good point. I just try everyday not to get too hyped up, but it sure is nice that these guys are being looked at by the bigger clubs.
     
  15. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anyone have video on this kid?
     
  16. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
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    FC Bayern München
     
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  17. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh I meant game footage but that was good.
     
  18. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    If he gets loaned to Oklahoma City or Orlando, you'll be able to watch every game free through YouTube
     
  19. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Awww yeah
     
  20. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
  21. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Promise I'm not trying to bury the kid but all I could find was...

    Either EPB or Redding are turned really badly at 1:25



    EPB with a poor clear that turns to a goal at 1:09. At 1:42 some questionable defending but granted a tough position to be in.



    But I guess that's what happens when you play defense and someone compiles highlights. They only feature scoring chances = /
     
  22. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    Yes, highlights are not the best for a CB. Although in their defense, the Argentinean team was a year (?) older.
     
  23. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Definitely knew it was older, how much idk
     
  24. Tom Collingsworth

    Jun 14, 2011
    North Carolina
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    two years I believe, '95 vs '97
     
  25. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
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