Erik Palmer-Brown at Austria Wien: no wiener jokes because it's pronounced "veen"

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  1. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
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    He'll take non-EU spot at Juve
     
  2. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Read the article above from the Italian journalist. According to this guy (who Scotty says is reputable)..........the deal is done. Erik will spend the next calendar year at SKC with sporadic trips to Italy. When he'll turn 18 he'll move over. Juve will compensate SKC in some way (incentives?) for that year of training.
     
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  3. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

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  4. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
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  5. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle
    Dec 12, 2009
    San Francisco
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    San Jose Frogs
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    United States
    i'd read after mls cup that aurelien colin was looking to leave. that still the case? he'd have some big shoes to fill...
     
  6. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
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    Kansas City Wizards
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    Doesn't look like it. And he wouldn't be the one to fill in for Collin, it'd be Ike Opara, and probably Lawrence Olum before Palmer-Brown would get throw out there.
     
  7. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

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  8. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
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    DC United
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    Yeah, as I've been saying, this is no shocker. There was ZERO incentive for KC to make the deal under the terms that have been hinted at. This isn't brain surgery.
     
  9. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    Here's the latest from Alfredo Pedullà (translated from Italian):


    Exclusive: Juve prepare the documentation for Palmer-Brown

    The updates on Erik Palmer-Brown, who we have reported on several times now, keep coming. For quite some time now Juve have had their eye on Kansas City’s 16-year-old defender, considered an excellent prospect for his young age and high potential.

    Over the past few days the two clubs have been preparing the documentation that will be exchanged, after having reached an agreement a few weeks ago. The deal will see Juventus leaving Palmer-Brown at Kansas City until he reaches the age of 18, including some training stints in Italy to help facilitate his adjustment to European football.

    http://www.alfredopedulla.com/articoli/38322-esclusiva-palmer-brown-la-juve-prepara-i-documenti
     
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  10. agoo101284

    agoo101284 Member

    Mar 23, 2005
    Bronx, NY
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    United States
    This is probably the best possible arrangement for someone who isn't immediately eligible for a move to Europe.
     
  11. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    why is that a good arrangement? If SKC has a fee arranged, they have zero incentive to develop the player. Nor do they have any incentive to value long term benefits over short term (which might be a big issue for a still-developing athlete). Why would SKC agree to a fee 2 years from now for a prospect with so much potential? Why would EPB lock himself into a move 2 years down the road?

    There are 3 parties in on this deal and it makes little sense for 2 of them (the only reason it makes sense for Juve is that they would be locking a potentially good player in for chump change).

    #believeitwhenIseeit
     
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  12. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

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    United States
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  13. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
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    United States
    I'll take SKC's word that there's no deal here yet, but let's leave room for business here:

    1. SKC might want to be able to sell players in the future, so agreeing with a highly visible club in Europe to train a player and then doing a crappy job would hurt that line of business.

    2. SKC might want to sign promising young Americans in the future. Getting a reputation for crapping out on kids who are being sold on to high-profile Euro clubs is probably a bad idea.

    3. Juve could pull out of the deal in the future, leaving SKC with a talented prospect on their hands.

    In any eventI see SKC 100% behind Erik's development, regardless of any deal with Juve.

    For Erik, I think the decision with Juve is whether you take your opportunities now or wait to play your hand later. It's not terribly easy to get in with these clubs. On the other hand, if Juve think enough of him that they are willing to let SKC train him for 2 years and still bring him over, he must be an excellent prospect. Ages 16 through 18 are pretty key for player development.
     
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  14. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
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    If the Fire had a young player who would be moving to a top club in two years, I'd buy tickets to watch that player play for the Fire for two years.

    As it is, to the extent the Fire have no interest in developing American players to reach levels recognized in world soccer, I have no interest in the Fire.

    I can't imagine I am the only person who'd rather see young Americans play over journeymen or foreigners. SKC would look attractive both to fans and young talent if they sent someone to Juve.
     
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  15. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
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    DC United
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    United States
    Your first 2 points about SKC really rely on a thought process by SKC of "maybe we don't know what we're doing" which is just not an attitude I think you will find in a professional sports organization of any ambition, definitely not in that organization, from what I've seen.

    As for 3, that would make it an even worse deal for SKC, if Juve can pull out (unless SKC can unilaterally pull out too, in which case what the hell kind of deal is it?).

    As for EPB, I will agree, it probably seems pretty attractive to him, even if it is not the wisest choice (I'm pretty sure that as long as he shows promise, Juve will be happy to have him come train with them)
     
  16. Dervos

    Dervos Member

    Mar 13, 2002
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    A % of a sell-on fee for SKC would solve this.
     
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  17. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

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  18. usry723

    usry723 Member+

    Aug 14, 2008
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    So, what are the chances of him getting first team minutes for SKC this season?
     
  19. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

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  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Well, a look at the roster suggests that he is the #4 or #5 CB at present behind Besler, Collin, Opara and maybe Olum. It would be unusual but not unheard of for a precocious teen player to see MLS playing time at that level in the depth chart; Besler's presumed MNT absence will free up minutes, but it might also induce the team to look for a more seasoned relief option.

    Perhaps they could give him a few minutes on the wing as well.

    SKC used loans to good effect last year and now has OKC as a partner with Nielsen at the helm. That might be an option too. Lower-division rosters tend to come together later than MLS ones because the teams wait around to see who is available.
     
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  21. Scotty

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  22. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

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  23. Chance

    Chance Member+

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    Apr 5, 2012
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    Move out of the way Giorgio Chiellini! Erik Palmer-Brown is coming to Turin!

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  24. Higher Learning

    Jul 1, 2009
    San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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  25. Gorky

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