Erik Palmer-Brown at Austria Wien: no wiener jokes because it's pronounced "veen"

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  1. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    Here's the latest from Italian journalist Alfredo Pedullà (translated from Italian):


    Exclusive: Palmer-Brown and Juve, training stints expected

    Juventus’ deal for Erik Palmer-Brown, the 1997-born defender, will see them ‘parking’ the youngster with Sporting Kansas City until he reaches the age of eighteen. It is in Juve’s best interest that the teenager, considered to be very promising and already part of his country’s U-20 side, gain the necessary experience before arriving in Italy, and it’s a solution that also works out well for his U.S. club.

    The agreement, which will be signed after the January transfer market, will also see Palmer-Brown coming to Italy for various training stints in order to facilitate his settling in as he prepares to make the move permanently. It’s a solution has been studied in detail and one that satisfies everyone.

    http://www.alfredopedulla.com/articoli/37232-esclusiva-palmer-brown-juve-previsti-stage-in-italia
     
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  2. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Am I dreaming?... A real life American defender wanted by Juventus. Wanted so bad at such a young age that they are willing to arrange things around his needs? Nope...It can't be real.
     
  3. Werdman89

    Werdman89 Member+

    May 27, 2008
    Boston, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly, I'm not sure you can find a big club that isn't interested in an American youth player.
     
  4. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, but this is honestly the first time in a long time I can remember where they want him this badly. I mean a guy who is genuinely committed to the US and isn't a dual national who we might be lucky to get.
     
  5. Tom Collingsworth

    Jun 14, 2011
    North Carolina
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's crazy is Palmer-Brown isn't even the best CB prospect in his age group imho, Tommy Redding is a stud.
     
  6. El Michael

    El Michael Member

    Dec 17, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Borussia Dortmund and Junior Flores and Liverpool and Marc Pelosi, both are committed to the US. Liverpool signed Pelosi to an extended contract after his injury and BD has been very accommodating with Flores.
     
  7. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well I'm sorry for being excited....
     
  8. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now you can be excited 3x !
     
  9. The Foo Fighter

    The Foo Fighter Member+

    Mar 15, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mostly I had forgotten about Pelosi, and Flores slipped my mind.
     
  10. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    This type of "parking" strategy has been used in the past.

    For instance when Hoffenheim signed Joseph Gyau and Charles Renken. Those two also didn't have Euro passports. So the German club parked them at the Vancouver Whitecaps academy until they were 18.
     
  11. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    From the way the article makes it sound, those "other factors" are the appearances he makes with KC; the more they play Palmer-Brown next season, the more they will end up getting for him.

    So the incentive to develop him is purely financial.
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    But there's no way they're going to give much playing time to a 17 year old centerback. Not when they still have Besler, Opara, Collin (I think he's still there), etc.

    Erik should get plenty of playing time with US youth teams, and in the reserve league I guess........................

    I'm sure the incentive for SKC is financial in some way, though. And of course they'd love to see "their kid" do well and advance. It's a good advertisement for the academy while recruiting other youth players.
     
  13. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think this is a step up form that. SKC has monetary incentive to develop and play EPB in first team games. I'm thinking brief cameos over the next couple of years and perhaps some starts (it's not unheard of) in these games.
     
  14. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Read what clint wrote. That's my position. He isn't getting tons of time as a 16 year old with the defending champs .... a team that regularly gave up the fewest amount of shots the past 2 or 3 years. Simply not happening. There must be something wrong with the article. Either it is for more money, some outside sharing arrangement for players, etc., or this deal makes zero sense for KC. 250K is peanuts.
     
  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #115 Clint Eastwood, Jan 27, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2014
    It's unheard of for a 17 year old centerback to play in MLS games. I mean, this kid IS NOT READY for MLS game time yet. He doesn't even turn 17 until this March.

    Last season when some posters were screaming for Matt Miazga to get playing time for NYRB, we couldn't come up with many 18 year olds to ever play CB in MLS. This kid will be a year younger than that in this upcoming year. We've had 17-and-younger attacking players get minutes in the league, but not defenders. Kellyn Acosta was 18 last year when he started getting games for FCD post-U20 World Cup. I'm not saying it's impossible.................it just seems unreasonable for a team to give 17-year old Palmer-Brown game time unless SKC has an injury crisis.

    SKC will have some fixture congestion this season with CCL and USOC games on the docket, however. We're gonna start this 17 year old in the CCL? Doubt it. So maybe a token USOC game....................
     
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  16. MtMike

    MtMike Member+

    Nov 18, 1999
    the 417
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    SKC will be in MLS, USOC, and CCL play next year. Besler will be gone for 2 months. Wouldn't surprise me if he does get some playing time, even though he is behind Besler, Collin, Opara, Olum. A Collin suspension while Besler's away at the world cup and he's on the bench at least.
     
  17. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Never believe financial terms until a club confirms them. We've already heard 2 numbers, so there's no reason this guy has the correct terms either.
     
  18. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is precisely why I said I don't trust the article. The terms I have seen used are silly.
     
  19. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    Obviously the article is short on details, but it does say the fee could rise "considerably" based on the number of appearances he makes, for whatever that's worth.

    I guess we'll get more insight as to whether that's true if we see Palmer-Brown start getting late-game sub minutes in games SKC is already running away with...
     
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  20. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Also is it SKC appearances only? SKC is affiliated this season with Orlando and Oklahoma City in USLPro.
     
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  21. Sup Bro

    Sup Bro Member+

    Oct 26, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What if SKC sends Palmer-Brown to OKC or Orlando? Would appearances in the 3rd tier of American soccer impress Juventus enough to significantly increase the fee?

    edit: @ielag great minds think alike
     
  22. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    It's not clear from the article.

    I asked a couple of Italian friends to take a look at it and they said they would imagine them to be SKC appearances, but couldn't say for 100% certain.
     
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  23. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not buying it...the deal makes no sense for SKC
     
  24. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
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    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    you will get use to it
     
  25. shawnvb

    shawnvb Member

    Apr 30, 2013
    Missouri
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #125 shawnvb, Jan 27, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2014
    Haven't read through the whole thread, so this may be resolved by now, but he doesn't have an EU passport so he can't go before he turns 18.

    Juve was interested in him before he signed with SKC also
     

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