PBP: EPL - Manchester United FC vs West Ham United FC - Apr 13, 2019 [R]

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10, Apr 11, 2019.

  1. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    [​IMG] vs [​IMG]

    Competition: English Premier League
    Venue: Old Trafford
    Time: 17:30 (BST), 12:30 (EST)
    Channels: BT Sport 4K UHD(UK), BT Sport 1(UK), MUTV(UK), NBC Universo(US), NBC Sports Live(US), NBCSN(US), Telemundo Deportes en vivo(US), Sportsnet World(Canada), Flow Sports Premier(JA), SuperSport 3 Africa(Zambia)

    Manchester United injuries: Valencia (knock), Bailly (head), Darmian (knock), Young [​IMG], Shaw [​IMG]x10, Herrera (knock)
    West Ham injuries: Reid (unfit), Yarmolenko (achilles), Nasri (calf), Wilshere (ankle), Sánchez (knee), Carroll (ankle)

    Manchester United last 6: W-L-L-W-L-L
    West Ham last 6: L-W-L-W-L-L

    Manchester United last result:
    0-1 loss to Barcelona (UCL)
    West Ham last result: 2-0 away loss to chelsea (EPL)

    Manchester United league standing:
    6th
    West Ham league standing: 11th

    Last League Encounter:
    3-1 away loss at Olympic Stadium (Sep 2018)

    Manchester United last starting XI (4-3-3):
    de Gea, Young(c), Lindelöf, Smalling, Shaw, McTominay, Fred, Pogba, Dalot, Rashford, Lukaku

    West Ham last starting XI (4-2-3-1):
    Fabiański, Fredericks, Balbuena, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Rice, Noble(c), Arnautović, Lanzini, Anderson, Hernández

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    how much energy do we have left after that? hopefully some players will return for this one?

    no Young or Shaw. so Dalot and Rojo (?) Jones? (ugh)
     
  2. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No excuses allowed, regardless of injuries, suspensions or otherwise. It's 3pts or bust here.
     
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  3. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    If we drop any point here, top 4 is gone. Time to show up.
     
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  5. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    More importantly, if Pogba doesn't show up, I will be resigned to him fvcking off.
     
  6. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Same. I've defended him and I still think he has the highest ceiling of any player not naming Messi, Ronaldo, or Neymar. But I'm tired of his mood swings.
     
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  7. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    I'd like to see us build something, and I think these last games determine whether or not it should be around him or not. If not, send him to Madrid and invest the 400MM we have this summer in talent.
     
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  8. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    To be honest, my biggest worry is that we pull a Ronaldo with Pogba. And by that I mean sell him for a huge sum and the Glazers take the profit and give us a fraction of it for his replacement.
     
  9. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    I don't trust anything going on in the ivory tower, currently. This whole thing is a continual shit show.
     
  10. LA. MAN UNITED

    LA. MAN UNITED Member+

    May 22, 2006
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just seems like the heart of this team died in Paris after our lucky ass win. Haven't seen any killer instincts since. Tomorrow is our last final chance to piss away top 4 if all parties involved are not ready to lay it on the line.
     
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  11. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #11 Ashur, Apr 12, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2019
    Injuries have certainly played a part in our fortunes recently. And Ole's management of some of our players definitely has been an issue since he took over. I really hope for instance that Rashford does not start (or even plays, period tbh): he's been carrying an injury since the Pool game and it's clearly affected his game and performance levels recently. He needs to be shut down or played less at the very least, so he can get himself back fully fit and sharp.
    And that goes for anyone else for that matter: as much as we need bodies now, healthy ones are the priority and what matters most right now. This is not the time where we can carry half fit guys, whose productivity is nowhere near what it is supposed to be. As such, the team I would go with for tomorrow would be something like this:
    Dave
    Dalot Smalling Lindelöf Darmian
    McTominay Fred Pogba
    Lingard Lukaku Martial
    Darmian is a push, considering he's just coming back from injury, but I'd still prefer him to Rojo at LB. Always thought that he can be serviceable at CB at times, but he's always been a disaster at FB. Therefore a rusty Darmian would probably still be a better solution over Rojo, as far as I'm concerned.
    This is a game where I'd have some of the kids on bench also, someone like Chong and Greewood both, ready to come on if necessary. Sometimes, you have to take risks and throw the dice. Greenwood especially against WH could make something happen in a sub role I feel.
    As previously stated though, there are no excuses allowed and should be fail to get all 3pts, our top 4 hopes will be toast in all likelihood. Everyone needs to step it, but Pogba and Lukaku in particular need to show up big time. So let's get it done for the win, no matter what...
     
  12. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Provisional squad:
    David de Gea, Sergio Romero, Lee Grant, Diogo Dalot, Chris Smalling, Matteo Darmian, Victor Lindelof, Marcos Rojo, Phil Jones, Scott McTominay, Fred, Paul Pogba, Juan Mata, AP, Angel Gomes, Jesse Lingard, Romelu Lukaku, Marcus Rashford, Anthony Martial, Mason Greenwood.
    Darmian is back finally. Great to see Greenwood and Gomes included. Guessing that Grant and Gomes will be the 2 missing the cut for the matchday squad, meaning Greenwood should make the bench, fingers crossed.
     
  13. United 16

    United 16 Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 25, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  14. LA. MAN UNITED

    LA. MAN UNITED Member+

    May 22, 2006
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One hour until kickoff and everybody is jacked!!! :p
     
  15. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting that McTominay is the one being 'rested' in midfield by Ole ahead of the Camp Nou Tuesday. This lineup is pretty much whatever, just need to get it done and win the 3pts.
     
  16. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Really not sure what to make of this lineup. Interesting is putting it mildly. Can't even wrap my mind around how they will line up and play. Marshall needs to come good today and Pogba as well
     
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  17. United 16

    United 16 Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 25, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  18. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Is this the Fred at 6 experiment?
     
  19. incighte

    incighte Red Card

    May 1, 2016
    What do people think we are seeing formation wise?

    To me, Rojo's assignment will be more conservative, with Dalot free to get forward on the right.

    Pogba sits deeper with Fred. Lingard and Mata will be in front of them, like a box, alternate pivoting to width while in possession, and central in defensive shape.

    Lukaku and Martial in a two up front.
     
  20. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lukaku needs to show up big today: this is the type of game and opponents he relishes and usually does well against.
    Very much looks like a 4-4-2 to me, with Lukaku and Martial upfront. Fred the deepest of the 4 mids, Mata at the tip of the diamond supporting the 2 front men, with Lingard and Pogba on each side.
     
  21. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    Very fluid system attacking wise. Reminds me of the old days. I am not sure about the two man midfield though.
     
  22. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    West Ham's XI: Fabianski, Zabaleta, Balbuena, Ogbonna, Masuaku, Rice, Noble, Snodgrass, Lanzini, Felipe Anderson, Chicharito.
     
  23. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Unless Ole is making good on his comments to play Pogba deeper, than yes, it has to be.
     
  24. Amdrag

    Amdrag Member+

    Jun 10, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Just win United. Just win.
     
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  25. gatekeeper2

    gatekeeper2 Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Pretty much this. If we can't beat West Ham with or without Fred and Marcos, we have no right to even think about a top four spot.
     

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