England Under 21 Discussions Thread #7

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  1. dbs235

    dbs235 Member

    Mar 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    He definitely needs to aim higher than that. Championship at a minimum. He's good enough.
     
  2. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
    TAA and Gomez are starting and RLC, Solanke and Kent are on the bench for the PL Asia Trophy match between Liverpool and Palace. Leko and a few others have come on in the other game between Leicester and West Brom.
     
  3. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Joe Gomez is having a great game. Solid defending against Palace's strong attackers and incisive forward runs with the ball at feet.
     
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  4. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Solanke with a well taken goal too. TAA is in a good position to stake a claim for that right back role.
     
  5. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
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  6. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
    A couple of places are now reporting that Southampton want to use their PL loan option to sign Patrick Roberts.
     
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  7. The Guardian

    The Guardian Member+

    Jul 31, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Sancho has been reported as not being seen boarding the plane (Manchester Evening News I think).
     
  8. The Guardian

    The Guardian Member+

    Jul 31, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Yeah, Gomez was sound. I still can't tell, though, if he's got his pace back. Delightful goal from Solanke.
     
  9. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Joe Williams joins Barnsley on loan from Everton.
     
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  10. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
    Another pre-season goal for Kieran Dowell yesterday -

     
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  11. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
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  12. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
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    'But Aidy Boothroyd’s side will be back on home soil four days later to take on Latvia at AFC Bournemouth’s Vitality Stadium on Tuesday 5 September.'

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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  13. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Oh Gawn!! That's just fine and dandy!

    My only surprise is that the FA haven't offered him a new contract with the promise to take over from Southgate when the time occurs.
     
  14. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    The tweet's gone. What was it exactly?
     
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    Jul 6, 2008
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  16. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Maybe Boothroyd has gotten better as a manager.

    He did say that he's found a new love for the game or something like that by coaching England. I'm not a fan of him, but he did get us through the group and almost to the final of the U21 Euros. He does deserve a chance in all honesty because of that, but still I was hoping he'd take that other coaching offer.

    My main hope is that we'll go and destroy teams when we've gotten 2-0 leads instead of just backing off of them.
     
  17. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    It was an easy group that we should have got out of nine times out of ten. After that it was one knock out game which we played OK in but still lost. Playing OK in a one game that we expected to lose is not a good enough reason to give someone a longer leash. As you point out his teams have a bad habit of backing off, if he'd closed out the Germany game then we're getting into the sort of territory where he deserves some credit.
     
  18. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    To the eyes of the FA they probably think how can anybody complain?:

    - He got the U19s to the 2016 Euros and got to the semifinals.
    - He took over the U21s for Southgate and never lost a game to this point.
    - First time England have gotten out of the group stage since 2009.
    - Took Germany to penalties.

    Those are okay achievements, but what we're all pointing out is that his coaching style is bad, but the FA I'm guessing doesn't see it that way. Neither does most of the media, which is what the FA always responds to.
     
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  19. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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    He's certainly not a disaster, but he should be under strict instruction to be braver next time around. That German defence was begging to be pressured.
     
  20. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    We didn't really do anything as a team well in that whole tournament in my view and in the first game particularly it looked like the players didn't know what our plans were. The team also looked exhausted pretty early in games. Within all the other groups there were issues you could disagree with (selection, tactics etc) but you could see pretty significant changes to the actual approach. It was just more structured and professional compared to the past. With Boothroyd though it's just not up to the same standard. So he should be booted but that isnt going to happen.

    I guess in theory more positive work at younger levels has been done with the new batch and the experience they have gained should show when they start playing U21 level together. That has to be a positive and should negate some of Boothroyd's flaws.
     
  21. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Tyler Walker back among the goals for Forest.
     
  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Hinds scored another goal for Wolfsburg today. I know it's only freindlys but he seems to have made a positive start to life in Germany.
     
  23. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
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  24. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Good to see him doing well. I always thought he looked impressive for our under-16s and under-17s, but then he just disappeared from the England scene. Perhaps if he has a decent season he could make it to Toulon next summer and take it from there.
     
  25. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008

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