England U-20 Discussions Thread (2004 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by Jenks, Apr 4, 2015.

  1. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    That's a pretty decent write up in the paper to be fair.

    First 35 minutes were woeful, we didn't get on the ball at all and the Germans must have had 75% possession - we were playing 4231 and the Germans were 433 with the full backs bombing on and the wide forwards very wide.

    This part of the report

    "Alfons Amade, of Hoffenheim, was the first to threaten, picking up a scooped pass over England's defence to force Ramsdale into his first of many interventions.

    The keeper's second was utterly brilliant, a one-handed touch while diving backwards somehow preventing Amade's looping header finding the net.

    England's marking from corners was slack to say the least, with centre-half Nico Schlotterbeck twice ghosting in at the near post to meet Niklas Dorsch's deliveries.

    The first drew a low block from Ramsdale; the second, later in the half, clipped the top of the crossbar. England apparently hadn't heeded the warning.

    At one point, Goller breezed past three England defenders before curing a cross back to captain Salih Ozcan, whose shot was blocked.

    A ferocious shot from range by Hamburg forward Manuel Wintzheimer swerved viciously in the gusty wind but Ramsdale was just about equal to it. Wintzheimer earlier fired wide at the near post."

    Doesn't do justice to how clearcut these chances were. The latter 2 weren't big chances but the first 5, could easily have all been scored. They were all very good chances and Germany should have been out of sight. Amade and Goller were causing Lewis and Embleton so many problems, and the English players looked absolutely lost.

    We then changed to a 433 - with Field sitting as the deepest of the midfielders and the wide forwards pushing up and began to have a lot more of the ball without really threatening.

    This continued into the second half, and the changes really made the difference - Nmecha mainly - who held the ball up well, used his body well and allowed us to come up the pitch.

    Nketiah was very disappointing as a lone forward - his touch was poor, and he didn't hold it up at all, he looked a different player when moved to the wide forward role and did excellently for the 2nd goal and nearly even better when he hit the post.

    Ramsdale was excellent in goal, as good an all round performance I've seen from an English youth keeper in some time. He made some very difficult things look easy, and was rewarded with an excellent clean sheet.

    Lewis and Embleton really struggled on the left and were easily dispossessed and had rings run around them, the replacement Wilmot didn't look up to the required standards or didn't get up to the speed of the game.

    Suliman and Chalobah both did ok, but Chalobah especially relied on physicality to make up for mistakes which is a common theme. James looked very comfortable and good at RB, was probably the best outfield starter.

    Field did some good, but some very clumsy things. Willock scored a good goal but was hit or miss, twice gave the ball away in really bad positions. Dozzell was quiet but passed it well.

    The right winger was very direct, but seemed on a different wavelength to the rest of the team.

    I guess that all sounds pretty negative, but we showed good character to up the tempo after the break ad get on top for a bit and take our chances.
     
  2. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Downes and Chalobah start live on Sky v WBA

    Dozzell on the bench with Bishop (‘96) and Lankester (2000)
     
  3. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Lankester almost equalized in the end. He looked good, also remember Bishop being a great talent 2 or 3 years ago.
     
  4. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Thought Chalobah did well. He has a lot of quality on the ball for a CB and playing in midfield will help his development.
     
  5. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
  6. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Marcus Tavernier scored for Boro yesterday.

    Callum O'Hare on the bench for Villa today.
     
  7. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Bishop has barely played since, if he can play consistently and stay fit then he'll push on quicker than anyone - but has just lost 3 seasons to injury
     
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  8. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Will Huffer started for Leeds in goal, and had a clean sheet on his debut.
     
  9. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
  10. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    First PL start and first PL goal.

     
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  12. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Premier League trio chase Ipswich star Dozzell
    Premier League trio Bournemouth, Brighton and Crystal Palace are all tracking fit-again Ipswich ace Andre Dozzell.

    The 19-year-old midfielder - valued at £5 million by the Tractor Boys - is back in action after suffering a cruciate ligament injury on the opening day of last season that ruled him out for more than a year.

    Dozzell was a member of the England side that won the Under-17 and Under- 19 European titles in 2016 and 2017 respectively.

    Ipswich, rock-bottom of the Championship and 10 points from safety, may be tempted to cash in to help fund new signings in their desperate bid to beat the drop.
     
  13. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    Bournemouth could be a good move for him
     
  14. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Yeah, it's a strange one at ITFC at the moment - he is obviously incredibly highly rated but if we could get a good fee and he goes to a good club it may suit everyone for him to move on. Would hate to see it though.
     
  15. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    £5 million is a fairly cheap gamble for a Premier League side, if that's really enough to get him.
     
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  16. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    I think that would be more than enough in reality
     
  17. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    No brainer then.
     
  18. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Luke Bolton to Wycombe on loan. He looked good pre-season, seemed like Guardiola liked him, but he did not play for the seniors, still could have a good career but maybe not in City.
     
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  19. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
  20. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    With all due respect to Luton but I would have thought he could get a better Club to join. Mind you, if it’s a choice of Luton being the only option then maybe he should have gone as at least he would be getting playing time and experience for the rest of the season.
     
  21. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Luton are flying at the moment too and look like champions-elect to me. Would have been a really good place to go and play football
     
  22. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    On the other hand, it could have been more difficult to get in a team on such a roll now...
     
  23. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    What's the situation with Dozzell then? He stayed at Ipswich, but was not in the last few squads.
     
  24. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    He's just not being selected at the moment, played for the U23s alongside Teddy Bishop and Tristan Nydam as a midfield 3 on Monday. Bishop scored a hat trick so guess if anyone is going to push on for this weekend it will be Teddy.

    Ultimately we currently have 8 fit CMs (which includes youngsters Chalobah, Dozzell, Nydam, Downes plus relatively inexperienced Bishop) and he his probably 6th or 7th choice currently so that sees him not in the 18
     
  25. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    On the flipside, the manager who took them there has just left, so Willock wouldn't really know what situation he was going into, nor whether the new manager would have faith in Willock's abilities. I can see why it might not have been a simple decision to go there.
     

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