England U-18 Discussions Thread (2006 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by Jenks, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    I've been very sceptical about Karanka. But it's not really true that he banished the youngsters from the side. Only Worrall really saw a reduction in gametime. Part down to being 'dropped', part down to being injured. Cash + Brereton played just as much as they had before.
     
  2. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    It could be, but also you can count Dowell there, who really thrived under Warburton, but after Karanka arrived, he became a different, much worse player.
     
  3. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    In fact, I think itll be much more beneficial for Brereton if he plays less games but it's in a better team as opposed to another season of flogging himself up top on his own for 40 games.
     
  4. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    #1004 Garibaldi11, Jul 30, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2018
    It's understandable to have your concerns Hussar. There aren't many coaches around now willing to back young players properly that is for sure.

    Agree with the above JRSG. One of Brereton's strengths is his movement off the ball (making little runs in behind) & we finally have a #10 now of quality. For much of Dowell's time as #10 - Brereton was playing #7 unfortunately but also understandable as he he was gaining experience. But he is a #9 all day long.

    I think I also had concerns about Karanka before he first joined but so far so good.

    A positive I've seen this pre-season besides the involvement of other younger players is how he has dealt with Ryan Yates (1997) who looks the next one to be making big strides. His loans last year couldn't have been more perfect but it seemed like there was no room in the squad for him and Karanka kept saying we got to think what is best for him and a loan to Rotherham looked a formality. But his form this pre-season has been such that Karanka looks to be keeping him as 1 of our 4 centre-mids and going to flog Bridcutt.
     
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  5. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Probably deserves more recognition but Luca Ashby-Hammond really impressed me at the u17 Euros like he always has done.

    Has recently been with Fulham first team.

    Our best young keeper prospect after the under 21 group of Gunn, Henderson & Woodman.
     
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  6. David Hurford

    David Hurford Member

    West Ham
    England
    Jul 15, 2017
    I agree with this. I think hes the best young keeper after the u21 group. Interested to see how he gets along
     
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  7. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  8. David Hurford

    David Hurford Member

    West Ham
    England
    Jul 15, 2017
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  9. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    2001 born midfielder Ellis Chapman made his debut today for League Two leaders Lincoln.
     
  10. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    He had a great 20 minutes in another u23 game I saw recently. Almost scored a beauty that came back off the bar and nearly slotted in an amazing through ball. Still struggles with his physical deficit but once the game opens up his ability shines.
     
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  11. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    wasn't his debut. Played in the EFL cup and started last weekend. Cowley loves him.
     
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  12. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    He spent just under a season at Leicester, went there as a 15 year-old from Lincoln, then went back. Bit weird.
     
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  13. dakid

    dakid Member

    Oct 18, 2012
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    This post hasn't aged well!!!
     
  14. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Unfortunately not. We talked about that in the U20 thread.
     
  15. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    #1015 Garibaldi11, Aug 29, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2018
    Ha Indeed.

    I was dubious of him joining before he joined for multiple reasons from his boro spell.

    I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because back end of last season he did still use our young players.

    But that post above certainly makes me look stupid for giving him the benefit of the doubt.

    Hope Brereton rips it up at Blackburn.
     
  16. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Arvin Appiah is on the bench for us tonight for the first time. Of relevance to this thread and still only 17.
     
  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Squad for Limoges Tournament:

    Ajibola-Joshua Alese (West Ham United), Xavier Amaechi (Arsenal), Faustino Anjorin (Chelsea), Arvin Appiah (Nottingham Forest), Luca Ashby-Hammond (Fulham), Folarin Balogun (Arsenal), Dylan Crowe (Ipswich Town), Vontae Daley-Campbell (Arsenal), Marcus Dewhurst (Sheffield United), James Garner (Manchester United), Anthony Gordon (Everton), Mason Greenwood (Manchester United), Tyreece John-Jules (Arsenal), Curtis Jones (Liverpool), Ethan Laird (Manchester United), Bali Mumba (Sunderland), Nathanael Ogbeta (Manchester City), Arthur Okonkwo (Arsenal), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Keyendrah Simmonds (Manchester City), Rayhaan Tulloch (West Bromwich Albion).
     
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  18. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    @BarryfromEastenders feel free to sort into positions mate if you want. I agree it’s annoying that it’s in alphabetical order.
     
  19. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Some of these positions are up for debate but this is a rough projection from me -

    Luca Ashby-Hammond (Fulham), Marcus Dewhurst (Sheffield United), Arthur Okonkwo (Arsenal).

    Dylan Crowe (Ipswich Town), Vontae Daley-Campbell (Arsenal), Ethan Laird (Manchester United), Nathanael Ogbeta (Manchester City), Ajibola-Joshua Alese (West Ham United), Faustino Anjorin (Chelsea).

    Arvin Appiah (Nottingham Forest), Curtis Jones (Liverpool), Bali Mumba (Sunderland), James Garner (Manchester United), Anthony Gordon (Everton), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Mason Greenwood (Manchester United).

    Tyreece John-Jules (Arsenal), Keyendrah Simmonds (Manchester City), Rayhaan Tulloch (West Bromwich Albion), Xavier Amaechi (Arsenal), Folarin Balogun (Arsenal).
     
  20. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Anjorin won't be in defence, he's not played there at all since England U16.
     
  21. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I had him in midfield and then moved him back with the thinking he might have to play a cover role in required.
     
  22. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Hopefully Saka is in there as a LB
     
  23. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Men's U18s

    Netherlands v England
    Limoges Tournament
    2pm, Wednesday 5 September
    Stade Municipal de Beaublanc

    Russia v England
    Limoges Tournament
    2pm, Friday 7 September
    Stade Municipal de Beaublanc

    France v England
    Limoges Tournament
    5pm, Sunday 9 September
    Stade Municipal de Beaublanc
     
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  24. Slater582

    Slater582 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Tommy Doyle still not quite back from his injury against Switzerland. Nice to see the return of Jones & Greenwood.
     
  25. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    vs Netherlands today

    Ashby-Hammond, Crowe, Laird, Ogbeta, Saka, Garner (c), Anjorin, Jones, Greenwood, Appiah, John-Jules.
     

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