England U-17 Discussions Thread #3

Discussion in 'England' started by england66, Jul 8, 2011.

  1. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I watched McAtee play last week, clearly see his technical talent, his body hasn't quite caught up yet. Looked good on the ball, was given a lot of responsibility to move around in midfield, but was up against a stronger opposition and they minimised his impact. He's left footed too, so that helps with a bunch of stuff. He's good but not Foden-good.
     
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  2. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    And that isn't in any attempt to denigrate him, he's clearly very good for every step he's been at so far, and is someone to keenly watch as he takes on the tougher challenges to come.
     
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  3. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Technically, a few of these guys are up there with the 00s. They play some really slick stuff (from the little I/most of us have seen of them).

    When you add the likes of Jones, Garner and Greenwood into the mix; that’s three consecutive year groups with potential stars.
     
  4. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I'm not as bullish on this group as some other people are, though there is clear and undoubted talent through the spine when the best team is available. I can't begin to think any crop is going to touch the 2000 team though, that was downright remarkable.

    I am quite big on the 2003s though, there are some real gamechangers there, players who could play at a high standard within 2-3 years.
     
  5. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Aside from Harvey Elliott, who stands out in the 2003s? Is that Louie Barry’s group?
     
  6. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    That Jude Bellingham looks a top prospect from the little I’ve seen from him but I’ve heard about him for a few years now so I think there is a bit of a reputation with the kid, oh and there is Dembele too.
     
  7. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Karamoko is in a bit of a weird spot. Such high and accelerated expectations, but he's still tiny. Either he'll have to become powerful to cope with senior football or hope there's a growth spurt to come. His brother Siriki isn't that small, but if Karamoko is rushed into senior football and then has a growth spurt, things could get a little complicated. He could be one who is better off at a top English academy for a little while with a bit more protection + a slower transition.

    Celtic fans are hoping he'll get a debut after his 16th birthday or before the end of the year.
     
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  8. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    He made his first U18 start today. McNeil was also on the bench, so could be the sign that they're beginning to make the transition to next seasons U18s now.
     
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  9. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    McNeil and fellow sub Micah Hamilton are still U15 this season, although McNeil is only like 9 days away from being an U16 so there's not a lot of difference.
     
  10. AJ123

    AJ123 Member

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Is McNeil any relation to Dwight at Burnley? Dwight is from Rochdale isn't he.
     
  11. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Can't imagine they are, they spell their surnames differently (Charlie with two Ls, I've just developed a bad habit of doing the other way).
     
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  12. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
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    Chelsea FC
    [​IMG]

    Broome?, Wood-Gordon, Sarmiento, Taylor-Hart, Cirkin?, Livramento, Simeu
    Musah, Bate, Carvalho, Gelhardt

    I think anyway.
     
  13. AJ123

    AJ123 Member

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Carvalho seems to be an ever present in this group. How good is he?

    Good to see Sarimento there again. I did wonder if once he left the country he might be less involved and maybe switch.
     
  14. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
  15. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    They had a penalty shootout which England won.
     
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  16. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member

    May 20, 2010
    Probably my favorite 2002. Very technical and creative.
     
  17. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Lots of foreign-born players in this team/squad - Sarmiento, Cirkin, Simeu, Musah, Carvalho... Anyone else? I think Livramento was born here?
     
  18. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
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    Chelsea FC
    Livramento was born here yeah, he has Italian parentage. Not sure where Musah was born.
     
  19. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Musah was born in the US. Then went to Italy, over here at 9 or 10.
     
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  20. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Not necessarily foreign-born, but there are a LOT of players in the 2002 group who are eligible for more than one country. In addition to the above, you've got Miguel Azeez, Haydon Roberts, Armstrong Okoflex, Joe Hodge, Teden Mengi, Haji Mnoga, Noni Madueke, Paris Maghoma, Luis Binks, Serine Sanneh and Jensen Weir, and probably a few more that we haven't considered either.
     
  21. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Oh really? For some reason I thought he was born in Italy. No idea where I heard that though, so I'll take your word for it.
     
  22. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    To be honest though, the criteria are so broad that it would be a fairly rare person who wasn't technically eligible for someone else.
     
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  23. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Apparently his mum went over just for the birth. So he never actually lived in the States.
     
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  24. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Sounds a bit like Tomori and Canada.
     
  25. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    I'd keep that quiet round here.
     
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