England U-16 Discussion Thread 2 [R] (2008 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, May 4, 2012.

  1. markdavies17

    markdavies17 Member

    Oct 28, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    False. Lars Ricken has said they believe he’s the age he claims to be. Would take his word as academy director, over that of an u23 coach at the club (who’s statement you generalised as being the club as a whole), who has probably never worked with him.
     
  2. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    I'd expect the academy director to give the smart PR answer and the U23 coach to be more reckless with his tongue.

    It's an incredibly interesting case. Whether he's older or not. A completely unique situation, which nobody has any idea how to handle. That's why it fascinates me. I get that you disagree, but I think the way he's been held in the U17s + taken out of international consideration is pretty telling.
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    according to TM he has an older brother.
    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/borel-moukoko/profil/spieler/601587

    it's not as telling because Germany rarely has players playing up age groups anyways.

    but what's weird about the story is that his mom is currently only 30......His dad says he registered him at the Germany embassy in Cameroon right after his birth. Unless one thinks that his dad predicted that 12+ years later he would be playing football in Germany. It's a complicated case to be sure.

    the German FA have verified the authenticity of the papers too.
     
  4. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    So you're 100% on him being 14?

    Do you think he's the best 12/13 year old we've seen in World football then?
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm not sure about anything, that's always were iffiness comes from when players aren't born in Europe. Nothing against players who are born outside just, question marks always pop up.

    I've lots of people claim that France has plenty of age frauds too.

    only time will tell what's the truth but for now documentations does back Moukoko, it was verified by dfb but of course that's not everything.
     
  6. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    It's also not usually their intention to pull a fast one in terms of football. Usually just to give their kids the full educational experience in a new country so they don't get left behind. Can't blame parents for doing it.
     
  7. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Jake Garrett made his u23s debut for Blackburn the other day.
     
  8. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Finley Burns starting for City's U18s today.

    Noah Ohio also involved, Luke Mbete on the bench. Then U17 Mcatee starting, 04 Gyabi on the bench.

    Another Oduroh on the bench, but I don't know much about him.
     
  9. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    U16 defender, right or centre-back.

    McAtee is captain, which is interesting.
     
  10. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Squad of 20 now. Go ? :D
     
  11. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Oyegoke, Dobbin, Azeez in for Montaigu.
     
  12. Chmh

    Chmh New Member

    Aug 1, 2018
    You mean Barry?
     
  13. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Barry is in, I didn't mean him initially, dunno why I put Azeez mind.
     
  14. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Tobi Oluwayemi
     
  15. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
  16. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Group A: France , Spain, Brazil, Mexico

    Group B : England, Portugal, Argentina, Ivory Coast
     
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  17. David Hurford

    David Hurford Member

    West Ham
    England
    Jul 15, 2017
    Good job from the fa getting involved in this. No-one in my house complaining about ditching the victory shield . Bring it!
     
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  18. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Didn't make the 18, but Bellingham travelled with Birmingham this evening.
     
  19. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
  20. Slater582

    Slater582 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    #3395 Slater582, Mar 30, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2019
    I'm guessing Chibueze or Boyce-Clarke as the other goalkeeper.

    As I recall from previous years, Montaigu is generally as strong as possible. Of those not already confirmed by yourself and Juni, I'm assuming at least some of Colwill, Patino, Musiala, Nile John, Diallo & Karamoko will be there. Bellingham also unless his club keep him.

    Aside from Colwill, Norris & maybe Kenneh, are there any defensive players who stand out? Btw I'm hoping they'll still put some of the games on Youtube like in past editions.
     
  21. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I believe they're meeting and training at Chelsea pre-tournament so I'll try to find out bits and pieces.

    Simons, Musiala and Iling made their U18s debuts today; technically the first two played last season but that was in an all-U15 game so hardly counted.
     
  22. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Must admit, surprised those aren't the two GKs.

    Jamal Baptiste at West Ham.
     
  23. David Hurford

    David Hurford Member

    West Ham
    England
    Jul 15, 2017
  24. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
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