England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 11, 2018.

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  1. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Grealish did very well when he was in the premiership for two seasons ( aged 19) and in a struggling team
     
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  2. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Our group standings after the latest round of games -

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    Montenegro have imploded. Sacked their manager for refusing to manage the team against Kosovo. Two players also pulled out of the game. They were all seemingly being threatened back home in Serbia to not participate in the game. It all surrounds the issue of Serbia not recognising Kosovo's independence.

    The Czech's have bounced back from the loss in their first game with two wins and Kosovo won in the last minute against Bulgaria to solidify third place at this stage of qualifying.

    Our remaining games -
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  3. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Bulgaria and Montenegro look out of it. Kosovo look quite good
     
  4. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Bulgaria have also had to change their manager already. I've only watched them once and they were lucky to get a draw against Montenegro.

    Kosovo have a massive match against the Czech's at home next. Will be there biggest test so far.
     
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  5. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Do you mean in terms of having less time on the ball? A lot of our questions about Grealish are going to be answered this season.
    To be fair, Maddison dropped deep more often towards the end of the season. Notably in the Arsenal game and looked comfortable doing so.
     
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  6. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Got a good feeling he will be a revelation
     
  7. sharpovic

    sharpovic Member+

    May 20, 2010
    #4007 sharpovic, Jun 10, 2019
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    Really ? That would be amazing. Are you sure the reports are not about CHO ?
     
  8. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    #4008 TopBanana10, Jun 10, 2019
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    In his absence, Winks has become an even more key player for us. How best to utilise him though?

    I like the idea of playing Winks as the deepest midfielder alongside Henderson and RLC/Maddison. This could maximise our options on the ball but might leave us vulnerable defensively and a little lightweight.

    Alternatively, we could play Rice as the holding midfielder and Winks plus an AM. This would probably lead to similar issues as the ones encountered in the Dutch game though.
     
  9. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    This has to be worth trying out. I don't know if you all remember Wilshere's run as the midfield pivot in which he picked up countless MOTM awards, but a crucial factor in his success was having the industry of (usually) Henderson and Delph either side of him. I'm not sure that Winks needs or could justify two minders, but one willing runner could make all the difference, and it does seem like a good way to make use of Henderson's athleticism and add a bit of intelligence to our deep midfield at the same time. Ideally, I'd like Loftus-Cheek to round out the trio as a) he's great, and b) he's very comfortable on the left side of midfield, but it's worth giving it a shot even in his absence.
     
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  10. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Comfortably our best defender. If he can stop getting injured and having to win his place back, I don't think it'll be long before he's widely recognised as our first genuinely world class centre-back since the golden generation.

    Now that I've said that, watch him snap a ligament within the week.
     
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  11. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I concur. Our qualification group gives us a great chance to experiment a little with new players and tactics too.

    With RLC out for a while though, what do you think about Maddison playing as the more forward of the three? He created a lot of chances last season, so he ticks that box.
     
  12. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    He does, and he has a pre-existing familiarity with Chilwell and Maguire on that left-hand side, just as Henderson does with Gomez and TAA. Equally though, it's the kind of position that would give Grealish the best chance of succeeding, and Barkley's been playing well too. Even Alli would fit positionally, although that might leave the midfield direct to a fault.

    But it all depends on whether Winks can offer enough protection to the defence with Henderson's assistance, because I'm not sure that any of those players would add a lot in that respect.
     
  13. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Everyone has forgotten about aoc
     
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  14. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    No, CHO is set for an earlier return.
     
  15. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Rather interesting to hear Danny Murphy suggest that TTA would be better in England’s midfield maybe wingback ...
     
  16. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Hell no

    He’s world class so why move him?
     
  17. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Because the England midfield is pitiful and TTA wants to play midfield anyways... he’s only at RB to get a place in Liverpool he doesn’t see himself staying there ...

    He could be the new Becks on the right side ..
     
  18. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    When did he say that?
     
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  19. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I haven’t forgotten about him, I just don’t think he’s the answer. We’ve been there before with high energy direct runners like Ox, Alli and Lingard.

    I’d like to see us try RLC, Grealish or Maddison. Players that can slow the game down when necessary, pick a clever pass and keep hold of the ball under pressure.

    Barkley has performed reasonably but not well enough to ignore other options.
     
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  20. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I’m not sure after his last performance that we should be talking about changing TAA’s position.
     
  21. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    I thought it was common knowledge
     
  22. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Agree totally.. Barkley would be a late substitute at best for me
     
  23. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    As long as England not play with wing backs, this is academical debate at best. Plain stupidity at worst.
     
  24. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Well not if the lad has ambitions to be a midfielder .. Gareth Bale started out at leftback ...
     
  25. Sam1010

    Sam1010 Member

    Charlton
    England
    Apr 10, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The difference between Bale and TAA is that Bale is a supreme athlete and can beat most defenders off the dribble, I think TAA in midfield wouldn't work as well as I'm not sure he has the agility to beat midfielders under pressure, like RLC, Maddison and Foden. RB accentuates his world class passing ability because he has more time usually.
     

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