England Senior Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    #1 BarryfromEastenders, Jul 11, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2018
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  2. dbs235

    dbs235 Member

    Mar 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    2 games against Croatia :eek:
     
  3. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Very raw and fresh. :D
     
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  4. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Is Switzerland a friendly?
     
  5. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Croatia and Spain are the Nations league nonsense.

    The others are friendlies.

    I think the game in Croatia is behind closed doors
     
  6. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    What's the deal with this nations league thing anyway?
     
  7. Rabbi Keane

    Rabbi Keane Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    New UEFA tournament, basically there to replace friendlies. Will mean that teams play against other teams that are considered on the same level. Think there are some opportunities to qualify for the European Championship through it.
    I'm looking forward to it, stop the meaningless friendlies, gives one more thing to win in international football. England should embrace it.
     
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  8. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    So, what do we expect going forward? I think one thing is quite obvious is we really need to address the central midfield area as the current system just won’t cut it against the top sides as we saw last night against Croatia. Maybe a system change or just personnel idk. We really need some playmakers in there who can at least control games, it just didn’t quite work with Lingard and Alli as they are not those sort of players, control and creativity is a must going forward .
     
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  9. nurvin

    nurvin Member

    Feb 11, 2011
    #9 nurvin, Jul 12, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2018
    I think that despite the team arrived to the semifinals it has still a lot of work to do.
    I would change first of all the system, a 4-4-2 is more balanced and suits well this team.
    About the squad members:
    Some players did very well like Maguire, Trippier and Pickford, and deserve to continue their career in the national team.
    Other players i think aren't enough good to go forward like Lingard, Walker and Young.
    There are also players who were in the world cup squad who can show their qualities if they get more play time: i mean Dier, Rashford and Butland.
    Then i would consider to bring back some players like Wilshere and Shaw.
    About new entries or almost new there is for sure Cook, and eventually Winks, Maddison and Chilwell.
     
  10. Going to be interesting to see who can take the next step. Sancho, Sessegnon, Hudson-Odoi are touted to emerge over the next cycle, but most people seem to be centring on the midfield issues.

    Grealish?
    Mount?
    Hughes?
    Winks?
    Foden? (is he going to get games this season anywhere?)
    Maddison?
    Cook?
    Will RLC have a big season somewhere?
    Will Ox-Chamberlain get consistent game time in Liverpool's newly strengthened midfield?
    Will Lallana?

    Will Chalobah walk into the XI , deeper, come the Autumn?
     
  11. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I think the Croatia game at Wembley will actually be on November 18th.
     
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  12. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Updated it with the offical sites version. The other one I chose must have been wrong.
     
  13. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    A midfield of Grealish, Hughes, and Chamberlain would be great. Don't think Mount is ready quite yet.
     
  14. David Hurford

    David Hurford Member

    West Ham
    England
    Jul 15, 2017
    Chamberlain. You just wonder dont you, what would he have looked like raising his game and playing up a level as all the other boys did. Think he was a potential miss for us tbh. And has lallanas time passed?
     
  15. Rabbi Keane

    Rabbi Keane Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    I've said it before, in my view Sterling and Dele compete for the same position.
    Without injuries Lallana and Winks would probably have kept their place in the team and Rose would have been more fit. Leaving a team more like this for the recent tournament:

    Kane
    Sterling - Lallana
    Rose - Henderson - Winks - Trippier
    Maguire - Stones - Walker
    Pickford​

    Lingard obviously have performed well and claimed his part, same with Chamberlain who looked very good getting his shot due to injuries before he succumb to injuries himself.
    What Southgate have managed to do the best with this team though is to create a united squad with good moral, who believe in themselves and feel comfortable in the England set up. He'll want to keep that going - so don't expect to see Wilshere and Shelvey called up, they aren't good ones.
    I think there won't be too many changes early on, due to few games and gatherings continuity is important. I'd keep the team that have played this tournament, just try to find that one or two midfielder that will improve it - more about the type of player than quality. Not sure it will be Harry Winks, as he haven't looked the same after injury, hope to see an improvement obviously. Maybe it's Lewis Cook or Grealish.
     
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  16. kent paul

    kent paul Member

    Jan 2, 2004
    england
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    As for the up and coming young players If he starts the season well I think Sessegnon will get the call first and will make his debut sooner rather than later.
     
  17. Rabbi Keane

    Rabbi Keane Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Yes, he has every opportunity to do so if Southgate keep playing wing backs. With Rose far from his best, and let's face it a make shift Ashley Young. There's clearly an opening if he kicks off from the start of his Premier League career.
     
  18. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    I'm not sure the Ox is all that different from Lingard and Alli in terms of the type of midfielder he is. Quite a direct player, more of a runner than a passer... He's not going to help us to get the ball under control.

    Do think Lallana might be fully converted to a CM though, now that he's in his 30s. That would be very handy for us.
     
  19. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    Klopp using Lallana in central midfield seems unlikely with how Liverpool have strengthened in that area.
     
  20. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    I'm not so sure. They've got Milner, Keïta, Fabinho, Henderson, Wijnaldum, and the Ox. If they keep the three-man midfield then Fabinho is a threat to the DM position and/or a right-back. Henderson can't do what Lallana can as an 8, and if he's competing for the DM position himself then he's a non-issue. That leaves Keïta, the Ox, Lallana, Wijnaldum, and a 32-year-old Milner competing for two spots, and I think Lallana would get plenty of starts among that group. Not every game, but enough.
     
  21. kent paul

    kent paul Member

    Jan 2, 2004
    england
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Luke Shaw looks like he has lost a lot of weight, hopefully it is a new dawn for him because he only turned 23 the other day.
     
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  22. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    I think the squad will be quite similar until next year. The likes of Cahill will drop out and players like Tarkowski, Gomez and Mawson etc will cover that gap. Young will be replaced by Bertrand. For now Lewis Cook and Winks are most likely to be picked as CM reinforcements.

    The main interesting factor will probably be what will happen if players that offer width show their worth at club level. I hope Southgate isn't rigid and sticks with this system regardless.
     
  23. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Posted an Instagram photo and he looks very different. Hopefully he can overtake Young at LB and then get back into the England fold.
     
  24. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    The only major problem I have without Southgate - and it is major - is his lack of appreciation for midfield personnel. His next squad will tell us a lot about whether he's learned his lessons or not.
     
  25. kent paul

    kent paul Member

    Jan 2, 2004
    england
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Shaw and Rose as Left wing backs with Sessegnon soon to be breathing down there necks can only be a good thing.
     

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