End of Iraq War

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  1. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    What would you call kissing the rock?
     
  2. minerva

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    Catholics kiss the Pope's ring. doesn't mean they worship either the Pope or his ring...
     
  3. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    Answer my question, don't move the goalposts.
     
  4. minerva

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    I don't know what kissing a rock means, but kissing usually denotes love, not worship.
     
  5. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    Considering the fervor at the site, I'd say worship.
    Either way, then, I won't tell you to KMA!
     
  6. minerva

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    here's a worrisome prospect...
    the Bush ********up that just keeps on giving...
     
  7. dapip

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    See? There were WMDs in Iraq!
     
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  8. JBigjake

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  9. Iranian Monitor

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    https://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/iranian-commanders-front-line-iraqs-fight-175912102.html

    Iranian commanders on front line of Iraq's fight

    BAGHDAD (AP) — A powerful Iranian general has emerged as the chief tactician in Iraq's fight against Sunni militants, working on the front lines alongside 120 advisers from his country's Revolutionary Guard to direct Shiite militiamen and government forces in the smallest details of battle, militia commanders and government officials say.

    The startlingly hands-on role of Iranian Gen. Ghasem Soleimani points to the extent of the Shiite-led Iraqi government's reliance on its ally Tehran.
    ...
    "Soleimani wants to protect Baghdad and Samarra just as he kept Damascus safe for Assad," said one Iraqi government official, also speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the Iranians' role. "He is constantly shuttling between Iraq and Iran and when he is here he goes everywhere."

    Besides the adviser team, Iranian drones are flying near daily reconnaissance flights and Iranian weapons have been pouring into Iraq in large quantities, mostly to Shiite militias.
    ...
    The Shiite militia commanders said Soleimani was also directing militias, volunteers and government forces at other front-line zones around Baghdad. His willingness — and that of his advisers — to go right into the battle has created a near cult of personality for Soleimani among some militiamen.

    "They are so much braver than Iraqi army commanders," a senior militia commander deployed in Samarra said of the Iranians. "Soleimani is the world's best military commander."
     
  10. Mr. Conspiracy

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    ^^^^^^iran invented military commanders^^^^^
     
  11. taosjohn

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    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
  12. minerva

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    you haven't lived if you haven't had a woman shake your world...
    "you, shook me aaaaaall night long"
     
  13. minerva

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    if ISIS invades Turkey, will NATO get involved?

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  14. Mr. Conspiracy

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    I would think so, provided Turkey invoked that part of the treaty....
     
  15. minerva

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    I think it's going to be a little trickier than that though. I don't see ISIS launching an outright invasion of Turkey, but I can see them launch small, quick, cross-border attacks against the Kurds living there. would Turkey classify that as an invasion? would NATO?
     
  16. Mr. Conspiracy

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    I wouldn't think Turkey would call it an invasion. They have been dealing with Kurds doing that for quite some time now.
    I think it really comes down to how invasive any ISIS attacks would be. And what scale.
     
  17. minerva

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    also depends on how ready the US would be to seriously go after ISIS and use such an incursion as the pretext/reason. as of now, the US seems unwilling to do more that provide weapons and air support.
     
  18. ceezmad

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    An attack on Turkey would be an attack on NATO, which may give the USA the excuse it may want to bomb ISI in Syria.

    China and Russia may not see it that way.
     
  19. minerva

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    yeah, but they won't be able to do anything about it. just like we're not able to do much about what Russia is doing in Ukraine.
     
  20. ceezmad

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    Ukraine is not NATO, you would think an attack on Turkey would have a response, but we can't be sure.
     
  21. minerva

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    I meant as far as what Russia or China would be able to do if the US were to use an ISIS incursion into Turkey as a pretext for bombing ISIS targets in Syria. they wouldn't be able to do anything about it. just like we can't do anything about Russia's actions in Ukraine.
     
  22. Pass-n-Go

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    Jul 5, 2008
    Funny thing about all this is that allegedly some key members of ISIS were trained by the CIA in a secret base. Train to fight against Syria. Talk about unintended consequences.
     
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  23. Moishe

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    If assistance is requested by Turkey then I am pretty certain NATO would. Of course I easily see Turkey asking for that type of assistance, I mean why wouldn't they?
     
  24. minerva

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    if that's true, when will the US, and especially the CIA ever learn?? -- Mujaheddin, Afghanistan, 1980s.
     

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