Emerson Hyndman at Atlanta United (on loan from Bournemouth)

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  1. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
  2. eliwood

    eliwood Member+

    Jul 25, 2016
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  3. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still eligible, I believe, given the 3 overage player exception (does it still exist?).
     
  4. Martino2Buddle

    Crystal Palace
    United States
    Dec 12, 2005
    Richmond, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah but that only applies to if we qualify for the Olympics. Can't use overage players for qualifying. In any case God willing we qualify we sure as hell will have better overage options that him.
     
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  5. wixson7

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    May 12, 2009
    boulder
  6. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    That is some odd facial expressions and body language.
     
  7. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Who are you think of as better options? I'd take Steffen/Horvath and Brooks/Miazga. Based on Berhalters call ups, I dont see many good options.

    Of course there are players Berhalter hasnt called, but looking at the over age players on the current 40 man roster after a GK and CB, I'd only be interested in Holmes or Boyd. If EH can find playing time this year, I'd be happy with all over age players to be u25s.

    Position Player Club
    GK Guzan, Brad Atlanta United
    GK Johnson, Sean New York City FC
    GK Horvath, Ethan Club Brugge
    GK Steffen, Zack Columbus Crew SC

    GK Miller, Tyler LAFC
    D Garza, Greg FC Cincinnati
    D Gonzalez, Omar Club Atlas
    D Gutman, Andrew Charlotte Independence
    D Lima, Nick San Jose Earthquakes
    D Long, Aaron New York Red Bulls
    D Lovitz, Daniel Montreal Impact
    D Miazga, Matt Chelsea
    D Ream, Tim Fulham FC
    D Zimmerman, Walker LAFC
    M Bradley, Michael Toronto FC
    M Holmes, Duane Derby County
    M Lletget, Sebastian LA Galaxy
    M Nagbe, Darlington Atlanta United
    M Roldan, Cristian Seattle Sounders
    M Trapp, Wil Columbus Crew SC
    F Altidore, Jozy Toronto FC
    F Arriola, Paul D.C. United
    F Baird, Corey Real Salt Lake
    F Boyd, Tyler MKE Ankaragücü
    F Gyau, Joe MSV Duisburg
    F Morris, Jordan Seattle Sounders
    F Ramirez, Christian LAFC
    F Zardes, Gyasi Columbus Crew SC

    Position Player Club
    D Adams, Tyler RB Leipzig
    D Cannon, Reggie FC Dallas
    D Carter-Vickers, Cameron Tottenham Hotspur
    D Fossey, Marlon Fulham FC
    D Robinson, Antonee Wigan Athletic
    D Robinson, Miles Atlanta United
    M Mckennie, Weston Schalke 04
    M Mihailovic, Djordje Chicago Fire
    M Pulisic, Christian Chelsea
    F Amon, Jonathan FC Nordsjælland
    F Lewis, Jonathan Colorado Rapids
    F Sargent, Josh Werder Bremen
     
  8. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lol they look pissed
     
  9. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, and Antonee Robinson looks like he's got a limp, too!
     
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  10. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    That group needs yoga.
     
  11. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many assistant coach’s does Berhalter have here?
     
  12. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it’s his staff plus the u23 staff
     
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  13. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. DirectK

    DirectK Member

    United States
    Jun 27, 2018
    The article says "Hyndman would likely provide cover for Darlington Nagbe and Julian Gressel in central midfield."

    Seems like he should be able to find an MLS team that would start him, no? Not sure this makes a ton of sense for him unless Atlanta is planning another move. Then again, moves that don't make any sense seem to be Hyndman's specialty.

    Unless it's a money thing...
     
  15. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Not what anyone here probably would have wanted but there are worse fates. Would be fun to see him actual playing again.
     
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  16. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Keep in mind that Nagbe wanted to move to Columbus before the season started.
     
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  17. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    That's what I was thinking/hoping. Atlanta might see him as a younger, cheaper replacement for Nagbe.
     
  18. DirectK

    DirectK Member

    United States
    Jun 27, 2018
    Ah yeah, forgot about that.
     
  19. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Coming back to MLS would be a real shame. I am having a hard time seeing how the numbers work for all parties.
     
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  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I've got a record of being extremely skeptical of Hyndman, but still: based on what?

    He was fine for Hibs, but not outstanding. That was 7 months ago, and he has 37 minutes of gametime since.

    Before that, he spent an entire season wasting away in the Bournemouth reserves.

    Then you're going back to the second half of 2016-17 to find a good series of performances for Rangers. That was two full years ago, and there's nothing in his record to indicate that he has progressed as a player (or, frankly, done anything but regress).

    His fitness is probably bad, his form worse. If this Atlanta move comes through (and I truly hope it does), he'll have a chance to build up his fitness at the USL level. Then, he can move up to the first team of an Atlanta side that dominates matches regularly, which will allow him to maximize his skillset.

    Are there teams where he could start regularly? Maybe. But they wouldn't be the best fit for him anyway because of the reasons above.
     
  21. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Not sure why his fitness would be bad. Perhaps his game fitness, but that is recovered quickly with a few games - and most players need to recover it at the end of a summer or other break. His overall fitness shouldn't be particularly poor. He was in regular training with B'mouth, played a bit... it's not like he's sitting on a beach drinking rum and will show up looking like Nick Nolte in north Dallas 40... I don't think fitness has ever been a top Hyndman issue.

    His form, we'll see, but he walked into the Rangers and Hibs loans without any regular b'mouth apps. I think you take the Gers and Hibs games, his few B'mouth apps. Watch them one after the other and that's what you're going to get. Seems to me he's a very consistent performer: Really decent as a circulating midfielder, a little too weak on D to be a top B2B/2Way, works best with players that like to play the ball on the ground and work the seams.

    I think any move that puts him where he might get a good bit of game and a chance to be a team leader is a good one. He'll sink or swim based on his skill set, which I think is pretty set at this point. His D and physicality can be improved, or he can find a team that plays him far enough forward to not worry.

    He seems very "Feilhaber after Derby" to me.
     
  22. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    How is he different from lletget in your mind? Thanks.
     
  23. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Guy has been rotting away on a bench after playing in Scotland for a team that would make the Chicago Fire look decent. He'll be lucky to become a rotation guy in Atlanta at this point.
     
  24. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Well they are just two different players.

    U.S. youth internationals have been released by "Big" European clubs in the past and come to MLS and succeeded (Lletget) some have had middling careers (Zizzo/Robbie Rogers) and many more have failed (Johann Smith, Ferrari, Danny Szetela) and some have proven to not even be good enough to get a shot in MLS (Arguez)

    *That's just guys from the 2007 U-20 World Cup off the top of my noggin.

    Who knows where Hyndman will fall on that list.

    It's a mixed bag but the reality of the situation is its not a happy ending for most guys.
     
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  25. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most of the failures are the ones who never got onto the field at all at a decent level.....

    Hyndman does at least have modicum of a track record. He has played first division matches, he has played for his EPL team...I think he'd stick in MLS....but it would be nice if that wasn't his path. I'm surprised he isn't trying to get out of the UK....with that Euro passport, he oughta have at least a few decent options on the Continent.....there's a lot of clubs between MLS and the EPL that he might be able to find....
     
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