Emerson Hyndman at Atlanta United (on loan from Bournemouth)

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  1. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Maybe the problem is Bournemouth has a lot of talented midfielders - which they do. I guarantee a few will be off this summer, so Emerson should make good use of time this summer if this thing is meant to be.
     
  2. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Maybe the problem is not a problem at all. Maybe Hyndman is at exactly the highest level at which he can earn a paycheck. This is kind of the goal of being a professional, isn't it?
    EmHy make the money, see.
     
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  3. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Too reasonable.

    Ive never thought of Gosling and Surman as overly talented, but they are solid EPL veterans. I like Arter and Cook has potential to be a future England international. The latter two are the ones I could see moving his summer. Arter had interest this last window and wouldn’t be surprised for a big(ger) club to splash some money for Cook. Arter hasn’t played since Jan 1, sohe couldmforce the issue. Cook’s contract has remaining term of EH, so best time to sell...
     
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  4. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    How dare we put rational takes on this thread. Good recover gents from the previous page.

    With Bournemouth safe, Emo needs to get at least some bench and cameo minutes this month and then come into camp ready to battle for a regular spot. Interesting season for sure but if a few spots open in the middle he will slot in nicely in my opinion.
     
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  5. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I think the well thought out goal is to make the most money over the players career and set himself up for another career once he retires from playing. Unclear if EH’s decision have put him in a position to max out his earnings potential, but I’m not sure he isn’t still on the best path or that far from it.
     
  6. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I’ve been saying this for at least a month. Get him some mins to help him fight for spot next season (international friendlies c/should come with it) or to get offers.

    3 LIVERPOOL VS BOURNEMOUTH AT ANFIELD 14th April 2018 5:30 PM

    Cook and Gosling starting with Surman on the bench. No Arter and interestingly a 21 yo defender who has grown up with the club and only played in one cup game (against Middlesbrough).


    BOURNEMOUTH VS 2 MANCHESTER UNITED AT VITALITY STADIUM 18th April 2018 7:45 PM

    18 SOUTHAMPTON VS BOURNEMOUTH AT ST. MARY'S STADIUM 28th April 2018 3:00 PM

    BOURNEMOUTH VS 15 SWANSEA CITY AT VITALITY STADIUM 5th May 2018 3:00 PM

    7 BURNLEY VS BOURNEMOUTH AT TURF MOOR 13th May 2018 3:00 PM

     
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  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Isn't the manager always "rating him"? And yet, has he even rode the bench for a PL match?

    I don't get why they didn't allow him to go on loan.
     
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  8. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    The lack of loan is the big headscratcher, and regretful looking back. They’ve had zero injuries in CM this year, and Howe wanted to keep him close just in case. Very conservative move on his part but backfired in hindsight given the relative health of the first team.
     
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  9. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Did the rules change to not allow recalling players? I can’t keep up with all of them. If still possible then definitely questionable. No mins in the next 4 games will be concerning for me.
     
  10. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Howe is pretty conservative. He’s not changing anything unless they are safe from relegation from his point of view. With Rangers, I think Howe saw enough to know if he needed quality in a pinch Hyndman could bring that more than any other young player.

    The only way Hyndman is seeing minutes would be if they are certain of safety. So maybe the last two games IMO. I don’t think that’s crazy. He’s not an old man. I don’t know how many 22 year old players we’ve had starting in the top leagues to expect he would be starting over EPL vets.
     
  11. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I’m pretty sure AFCB is safe this season. There is prize money for each position but isn’t large relative to the grand scheme but a £6M for a few spots isn’t something they would completely ignore (40M to 2M by 2M increments).

    I don’t think it is odd and have made the point about our past players (ie Reyna didn’t play a minute in first season at 21). The Reyna and O’brien Arguments aren’t direct comparisons, but to point out there is still time to carve out a nice career (injuries withstanding... poor o’brien). I made similar comparison of Pulisic numbers to messi’s As just a high bar he needed to drop below before I’d consider gettting concerned (17/18 has been the first season that CP didn’t match Messi at a similar age... I’ve thrown away the comparison, but still not concerned).

    https://www.totalsportek.com/money/premier-league-prize-money/

    Position Club Played Won Drawn Lost GF GA GD Points
    1 Previous Position 1 Manchester City 32 27 3 2 90 24 +66 84
    2 Previous Position 2 Manchester United 32 22 5 5 63 25 +38 71
    3 Previous Position 3 Liverpool 33 19 10 4 75 35 +40 67
    4 Previous Position 4 Tottenham Hotspur 32 20 7 5 64 27 +37 67
    5 Previous Position 5 Chelsea 33 18 6 9 57 33 +24 60
    6 Previous Position 6 Arsenal 32 16 6 10 61 43 +18 54
    7 Previous Position 7 Burnley 33 14 10 9 33 29 +4 52
    8 Previous Position 8 Leicester City 33 11 10 12 49 47 +2 43
    9 Previous Position 9 Everton 34 11 9 14 39 54 -15 42
    10 Previous Position 10 Newcastle United 32 10 8 14 33 41 -8 38
    11 Previous Position 11 Bournemouth 33 9 11 13 41 53 -12 38
    12 Previous Position 12 Watford 34 10 7 17 42 60 -18 37
    13 Previous Position 13 Brighton and Hove Albion 33 8 11 14 31 46 -15 35
    14 Previous Position 16 Huddersfield Town 34 9 8 17 27 54 -27 35
    15 Previous Position 14 West Ham United 32 8 10 14 40 58 -18 34
    16 Previous Position 17 Crystal Palace 34 8 10 16 36 54 -18 34
    17 Previous Position 15 Swansea City 33 8 9 16 27 46 -19 33
    —————————————————————————————————-
    18 Previous Position 18 Southampton 33 5 13 15 33 53 -20 28
    19 Previous Position 19 Stoke City 33 6 9 18 30 63 -33 27
    20 Previous Position 20 West Bromwich Albion 33 3 12 18 26 52 -26 21
     
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  12. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Nice [emoji106]

    Yeah, they had quoted Howe in pregame that he didn’t think they were safe yet. I always thought 37 or 38 was the cut off.

    I think I was definitely wrong about just two games now that you show that. Just need to get a win.
     
  13. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I was just going to right that Bournemouthe were putting on an attacker to see if they could nick a goal and a draw... then Salah. That F’ing guy is unreal.
     
  14. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe the reason he hasn't been loaned has nothing to with Bournemouth.
     
  15. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Which option are you suggesting? EH didn’t want to go or nobody wanted him?
     
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  16. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Both.
    Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
     
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  17. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I would opt for "neither."
     
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  18. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Why don’t you lay out the theory for both of those options. Im sure it is possible but they seem unlikely to some of us, so help us understand what you are thinking. I haven’t seen anything to suggest EH doesn’t want to play and isn’t willing to do what it takes. At a minimum, I’d think Rangers would have wanted him back.
     
  19. Midas Mulligan

    Midas Mulligan Member+

    Jul 24, 2013
    NYC
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are Shelton’s numbers on the year?

    And Tummy can hit a long ball or bumble one in, so there’s that. But I bet you would have had 5 passing to Villa.

    As for NYC being anti-American, that’s bs. They are just anti-suck.
     
  20. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    There were some reports that the Ranger's offer of a loan was overblown, as Warbucks had moved on, but the Sunderland enquiry seems to have been real and it's aburd to suggest that, if Zelalem can play for a less talented Gers side and show less, and still get a Erste move, that Hyndman would not have been interesting to some club - even if it were more Volendam than Sunderland.

    Whether Emo had enough faith in his talents and performance to tell Bournemouth he prefered to stay and fight, I have no idea, but it's hard to imagine that if B'mth wanted to get him a consistent runout that there were no takers.
     
  21. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yet it didn't happen.
    And let's be frank,if Howe thinks of him as a player for the future or a profitable transfer,he needs to have been in a first team side or two by now.
    Also,lighten up,General Kenobi.
     
  22. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    What is a manager supposed to say about any player who has not pissed him off?
     
  23. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Well don't give false hope for 1
     
  24. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    At some point, the management has to unload the said player.
     
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  25. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I agree. Hyndman just be waiting for a shot that's never coming.
     

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