El Tiempo Lo Cura Todo: The Camacho Era - The 2012 National Team Thread

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  1. ChaDuRi671

    ChaDuRi671 Member+

    Dec 30, 2010
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    Nice result for China.
     
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  2. ntg.

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    May 9, 2007
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    yes, and usually for china friendlies, CFA tend to hire korean refs.
     
  3. ntg.

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    May 9, 2007
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  4. Only_ONE_United

    Nov 30, 2008
    Vancouver/Hong Kong
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    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    China PR
    Thanks for the highlights link!
     
  5. gold4278

    gold4278 Member

    Feb 21, 2007
    Houston
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    Houston Dynamo
    Country:
    United States
    They cannot have refs from the home country, so most countries will just have local referees ref their games (In the US, Canadian, Mexican, or Caribbean refs always call our friendlies)
     
  6. ntg.

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    May 9, 2007
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    actually i remember few years ago (China vs. Paraguay), China used a Chinese ref (yes it is a big LOL).
    it seems there was no rules saying home country can't use home ref (just that if you win, you might be accused of bribing the ref LOL).

    the rules might be changed now, but i have seen couple of cases where home ref was used. (Hong Kong vs. Brazil, where Hong Kong ref was used).
     
  7. gold4278

    gold4278 Member

    Feb 21, 2007
    Houston
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    Houston Dynamo
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    United States
    Actually, I think you are right ntg. I am watching Puerto Rico vs. Spain right now and the center is from Puerto Rico, so I guess it isn't a must. It definitely looks better if the center referee at least isn't local.
     
  8. ntg.

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    May 9, 2007
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    Arsenal FC
    camacho on the ghana game, he said the following:
    - i am happy with the first half performance, the team attacked well, but not too happy over the second half performance
    - if the team played with more heart, the score line 1-1 wouldn't happen
    - there are some problems that need to be fixed within the team, especially the physical aspect; however, i can only take care of the team for three days, and i can't supervise/control them everyday
     
  9. ntg.

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    May 9, 2007
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    Arsenal FC
    random news:
    - it seems camacho will stick with the formation of 4-2-3-1 with time to come

    (starting 11 of ghana game)
    zeng cheng *
    liu jianye ** - zhao peng - feng xiaoting - sun xiang
    zhao xuri *** - qin sheng ***
    hao junmin - zheng zhi - yu hanchao ****
    gao lin

    for the players that are not starred, they have a concrete spot in the first team.

    * for zeng cheng, once beijing guoan's yang zhi his back, his space might be replaced
    ** liu jianye played due to injury to zhang linpeng
    *** it has been reported that camacho is looking for a player that could defend and attack at the same time, and it seems the performance of zhao and qin are not meeting his standard, one of the two spaces might be replaced by huang bowen (once huang's suspension is over)
    **** yu hanchao played because yu hai was suspended, it seems yu hai is preferred over yu hanchao and feng renliang
     
  10. Puckodum

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    Jun 27, 2007
    Sweden
    Country:
    China PR
    As for CM/DMF i think Yang Hao should be brought back, he´s a good tackler and a great distributor with the ball, i even think he would excel as AMF, with less defensive duties i believe he would do great.
    As for Feng Renliang, Camacho always plays him on the right wing, whereas he´s proven to be alot better on the opposite flank.
    One player that i´ve backed since many years is Wang Yongpo, but he´s never given the opportunity, maybe that will change now that he´s on fire in the CSL, but probably not....
     
  11. ntg.

    ntg. Moderator
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    May 9, 2007
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    i agree that wang yangbo should be considered.
    he has been scoring for the last 5/6 matches (including today's shandong luneng match) for his team, he is 25 and could be considered.

    one thing that i dun really like about camacho is he is rather conservative. he uses too much players based on guangzhou evergrande and doesn't really give chances to new people.
    i understand that he wants to use 7 evergrande players in one match because they have better chemistry than other players, but he needs to diverse his portfolio by trying out new players.

    regarding our backlines, we have sun xiang - feng xiaoting - zhao peng - zhang linpeng.
    feng xiaoting and zhang linpeng will stay with time to come.
    sun xiang, if his form drops, we have zheng zheng and rong hao.
    i am particularly concerned about zhao peng, the guy is in a relegating CSL team, if he will stay with henan next season, we would using a league 1 dude.
    there are other CBs that could be use, Pei Shuai (young dude with consistent playing time), Yu Yang, or even players from U-22/Olympics., the problem is Camacho is not giving them enough time.
     
  12. ntg.

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    May 9, 2007
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    ROSTERS FOR UPCOMING SWEDEN AND BRAZIL AWAY FRIENDLIES.

    广州恒大:孙 祥、郑 智、冯潇霆、张琳芃、秦 升、 赵旭日、郜 林
    Guangzhou Evergrande: Sun Xiang, Zheng Zhi, Feng Xiaoting, Zhang Linpeng, Qin Sheng, Zhao Xuri, Gao Lin

    北京国安:于 洋
    Beijing Guoan: Yu Yang

    辽宁宏运:于汉超 杨 旭
    Liaoning Hongyun: Yu Hanchao, Yang Xu

    江苏舜天:刘建业
    Jiangsu Sainty: Liu Jianye

    山东鲁能:耿晓峰、郑 铮、蒿俊闵
    Shandong Luneng: Geng Xiaofeng, Zheng Zheng, Hao Junmin

    贵州人和:于 海
    Guizhou Renhe: Yu Hai

    青岛中能俱乐部官方微博):刘 健
    Qingdao Jonoon: Liu Jian

    上海申花:冯仁亮 王大雷
    Shanghai Shenhua: Feng Renliang, Wang Dalei

    大连实德:吕 鹏 朱 挺
    Dalian Shide: Lu Peng, Zhu Ting

    河南建业:曾 诚、赵 鹏
    Henan Construction: Zeng Cheng, Zhao Peng

    广州富力:唐 淼、张 远
    Guangzhou R&F: Tang Miao, Zhang Yuan
     
  13. ntg.

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    May 9, 2007
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    ROSTER NOTES:

    - Wang Xiaolong (Beijing Guoan) was excluded
    - Tang Miao, Zhang Yuan (Guangzhou R&F), and Yu Hai (Guizhou Renhe) came back to the roster
    - Wang Dalei (Shanghai Shenhua) got his first ever national team call-up
    - Zhang Chengdong (C.D Mafra/Portugal) was excluded
     
  14. ntg.

    ntg. Moderator
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    May 9, 2007
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    Arsenal FC
    Update:
    - Yu Hai and Feng Xiaoting injured, won't play the two games
    - Zheng Zhi and Sun Xiang will return to China after the Sweden game
    - Zhang Linpeng is 50/50, he might play depending on his injury
     
  15. YLbowman

    YLbowman Member

    Aug 15, 2011
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    Manchester United FC
    Thats news to me :rolleyes:
     
  16. ntg.

    ntg. Moderator
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    May 9, 2007
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    you know, i am surprised he even survive in the league lol.
    given anyday, i wish zhao peng would be the first one run over by the injury train :(
     
  17. YLbowman

    YLbowman Member

    Aug 15, 2011
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    Manchester United FC
    haha yea i wonder that too. Imagine him in the Premier League...:notworthy:
    I'd choose Liu Jianye over Zhao Peng IMO. I'd like to see Zheng Zheng play more
     
  18. ntg.

    ntg. Moderator
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    May 9, 2007
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    dunno if liu jianye played CB before, but i rather see the new guy yu yang get more chance to play. unfortuantely, zhao peng will most likely start for the sweden and brazil game.

    zheng zheng will have his chance when sun xiang returns to china after the sweden game.
     
  19. YLbowman

    YLbowman Member

    Aug 15, 2011
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    Manchester United FC
    hope he scores a brace against Brazil :D
    And to be honest....I kinda liked Du Wei :eek:
     
  20. ntg.

    ntg. Moderator
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    May 9, 2007
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    Arsenal FC
    eventhough du wei seems to have a mini-career revival lately at CSL, he won't be called for the national team anymore.
    camacho is looking at players that could go for world cup 2018, and du wei would retire by then.
     
  21. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
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    Manchester United FC
    Whatever happend to Han Peng?
     
  22. YLbowman

    YLbowman Member

    Aug 15, 2011
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    Manchester United FC
    not as good as Gao Lin and i think hes on the bench a lot for Shandong Luneng
     
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  23. ChaDuRi671

    ChaDuRi671 Member+

    Dec 30, 2010
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    FC Seoul
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    Korea Republic
    Is Piao Cheng ever going to be called up?
     
  24. ntg.

    ntg. Moderator
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    May 9, 2007
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    Arsenal FC
    good question. his performance has gone up and down (statically, he is one of the players in CSL that shot the ball the most).
    i think he will be called up early next year..
    (he will face competition from chen tao and deng zhuoxiang, who both are established CMF/AMF in the national team; and potential competition from wang yongpo if he gets called up.)
     
  25. ntg.

    ntg. Moderator
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    May 9, 2007
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Update:
    - Zhang Linpeng went through the national team medical, and it was deemed HE IS NOT FIT. Zhang will return to Guangzhou (and not participate in the two friendly games)
    - Qin Sheng is reported to be injured too, Camacho will assess if Qin will play or not soon
     

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