El Salvador U20's - Road to WC 2017 (South Korea)

Discussion in 'El Salvador' started by L.A.Firpo84, Oct 4, 2015.

  1. L.A.Firpo84

    L.A.Firpo84 Member

    Mar 7, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Posible refuerzo Sub 20
    Carlos Pineda, un talento desbordante

     
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  2. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
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    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
  3. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    That's makes a lick of sense if he's interested with us good.
     
  4. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    agree with Grimm. Hes at the u20 level, hes gotta join us by now.

    I hate watching these type of college/HS vids. Most players can't really play at those teams. and not to be racist, but white boys...well...lol
     
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  5. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
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    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    You're talking to someone who prefers the Salvadoran-Americans represent USA first and switch over to ES if it doesn't work out, and I don't want our NT's to have too many Americans, but if Pineda really wants to switch over so soon then I won't be upset at all. The only prerequisite, really, is that he's better than who we have right now.
     
  6. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    our next u20's are lost. We do have a couple of studs, but kinda youn (2 Fas players, a metapan player, and an Alianza player are the only ones that come to mind).
    I know we dont want to flood ES with US players, but we definitely need help with our depth.
     
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  7. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
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    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I know, and I unfortunately agree; the U-17's this year were just terrible, so I'm not expecting much when the next U-20's starts playing next year. With that said, I'll be more relaxed towards the number of expats in our next U-20's cycle.

    We've got a few 97'ers and 98'ers abroad that can be potential options; from the top of my head Rene Siguenza from Italy, Alvaro Fey from Germany, Edson Elias from Mexico and several Americans in MLS academies.
     
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  8. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    I don't believe the U17s were that bad they just had a cardboard box for a coach.

    The old mod boss kept up with the youngsters better than us and he knew that the line-up for game two screamed tie and it cost us.


    Also I'm not a big fan of those guys representing the US first only to jump ship because they were tossed aside makes us look like a recycling plant. If they want to play for us make them a pretty big priority IMO.
     
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  9. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
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    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    [​IMG] "cardboard box for a coach". You're a savage; had me laughing for a good 30 seconds.

    Cusca hasn't been back all year, but Guanaco returned recently and his dedication to keeping up with youngsters has been invaluable.

    But we would still be considered a team of USMNT rejects for as long as we continue to accept American players, regardless of whether we were their first choice or not. If they want to play for us, then they are expected to be better players than what we already have. If Oscar Sorto decided he now wants to play for ES, he has to be the best right back we have. If Amando Moreno decided he now wants to represent ES, he has to be best striker we have and is guaranteed to score goals when we need him too.
     
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  10. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Don't get me wrong if they want to switch that's fine, I just don't think they "need" to play for the US first. They aren't rejects if they haven't played for a NT prior.
     
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  11. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
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    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I can agree with that. Right now we have Sorto, Moreno, Flores, Roldan and Perez who are all in USA's radar, while Gerson Umana wishes to represent USA. I'd be over the moon if one or more of these players eventually become USMNT regulars and also become the next Hugo Perez, but I think it's safe to say that we can expect a few of those players to switch over to ES.
     
  12. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    IMO, our u17's shouldn't have any players outside of ES. We can start calling in US players or whatever at the u20 level
     
  13. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador

    Maybe and I mean maybe keepers but the ones being produced in the US I know they haven't looked that great but the ES ones aren't much better.
     
  14. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
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    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Unless it's a Salvadoran playing abroad, then I agree. I felt like Rene Siguenza from Italy could've been called-up to the U-17's. Maybe he'll make an appearance for the U-20's.

    If we're talking U-23's, then I prefer Adolfo Menendez Jr and Rolando Morales to Carlos Canas.
     
  15. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Those italy 4th clubs arent even in LMF level, so no thank you.
    Are those guys even age eligible ?
     
  16. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
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    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Ruben claims the Italian 5th division (where both Siguenza brothers play) is on par with LMF, and I took it with a grain of salt.

    Canas, Morales and Menendez were all eligible to play in next year's Olympics. Rene is a 98'er, so he was eligible for this year's U-17's and will be eligible for the next U-20's.
     
  17. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Even worse! Just because it's italy, doesn't mean those teams are much better. The top 3, definitely. But the 4th, probably on par. the 5th no way.

    With GK's, we seem to have very good ones at every level...except the next u20s.
     
  18. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
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    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    With the way our U-17's performed, we unfortunately do have to look abroad for potential U-20 players. The good news is that, as I mentioned before, there are few 97'ers and 98'ers abroad that we could look at, like Rene and Fey-Rivas from Europe, Edson Elias from Mexico and several Americans in MLS academies.

    They may very well not be any better than who we already have, but it's still worth inviting them to train with the U-20's and see how they go.
     
  19. Blue_nation724

    Blue_nation724 Member+

    Mar 16, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    This is something i agree upon. We don't seem to have many players doing much in the reserve league or u20 league either
     
  20. BKR inC

    BKR inC Member+

    Feb 9, 2007
    Australia
  21. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
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    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Sub 20 arranca nuevo proceso

    Jairo Alexander Guardado - Juventud Independiente
    Emilio Isaí Quijada Gutiérrez - ADFA San Salvador
    Cristian Noel Rivera - Esc. Fútbol Don Bosco, Soyapango
    Diego Alejandro Chevez - Atlético Marte
    Giovanni Ernesto Ávila - Esc. Fútbol Santa Tecla
    Oscar Alexander Molina - ADFA San Salvador
    Emerson David Rivas - Municipal Ilopaneco
    Cesar Mejía - Reserva del Alianza
    Axel Eduardo Hernández - Esc. Fútbol Soyapango
    Ever Gúzman - Santa Tecla FC
    Mauricio Armando Gómez - Atlético Marte
    Sebastián Roundeu - ADFA San Salvador
    Sergio Enrique Ramírez - Reserva Atlético Marte
    Wilmer Oswaldo Martínez - Esc. Fútbol Halcón Negro
    Lisandro Rafael Mejía - Atlético Marte
    Denis José García Cornejo - Atlético Marte
    Elías Josué Gumero - Atlético Marte
    Fernando José Villalta - ADFA San Salvador
    José Edin Méndez - ADFA Ahuachapán
    Carlos Alfaro - Turín FC
    Diego Guatemala - Santa Tecla Sub 17
    José Águila - Turín FC
    Brayan Balmore Cerén - Nejapa
    Brayan Riquelme Landaverde - Talleres 3a División
    Fernando Esaú López - Atlético Marte

    Looking at this group of U-20 players, there's not a single name I recognise from the U-17 squad that was called up for the 2015 CONCACAF U-17 Championship qualifying. Good, because that squad was disastrous.
     
  22. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Can't really call them that especially when the coach was an imbecile thinking you can defend a 1-0 lead for 90 minutes and not have any of your good attacking players on the pitch until after the goal came.


    They did the first part of the job sadly they were forcefully handicapped in the second.
     
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  23. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    First friendly between Honduras and El Salvador U-20 NTs ended in a 1-1 draw. ES scored via Jonathan Aguilar in the first half, but Honduras clawed back and ended up tying the game with a goal from sub, Mario Flores.

    Next friendly will be behind closed doors on the 25th.

    [​IMG]
     
  24. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Looks like it's not only guys showing up to these things and I'm glad that the girls are also showing up to these things.

     
  25. La Trucha

    La Trucha Moderator
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    Nov 16, 2009
    42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    The names of players (both boys and girls) that impressed in LA, Houston and Dallas have been released. It doesn't mention the clubs they play for, though.

    Lara detectó lluvia de talento salvadoreño en USA

    Next month, Lara will scout in Atlanta, Virginia, Washington and New York.
     

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