PBP: El Clásico | FC Barcelona v Real Madrid | J10 - La Liga 19/20 | 18 December 2019 [R]

Please, if you bothered to do some research you’d know that we’ve won at least 5 games by 3 or more goals this season. In those games Suarez scored 6 goals. Again, perspective. Furthermore, I never said it was meaningless, it’s just easier to score goals when the whole team is in a positive flow and the goals are flying in left right and centre.

It’s not naive at all to want to look beyond a 32-year-old striker who is only going to decline from here on out. Not starting to look around for a replacement right now would be the real mistake. Like has been repeated many times before, ANY signing is a risk. Proven or unproven. Our recent and past signings have attested to this fact. And yet, sitting on our hands and waiting for things to go from bad to worse doesn’t seem like the way to go.

Lautaro seems like the way to go seeing as Mbappe is most likely on his way to Barcelona. Name one realistic target who is a better option at the moment. I’ll wait...

 

Like I said in my previous post, we need to shop for a striker. I'm just pointing-out that the replacement is likely to be less productive than Suarez (yes, even 32 year old Suarez) and combine less effectively with Messi. So lets keep the expectations in check.

But I have nothing against Lautaro in general. Its critical whoever Luisito's replacement is that its someone 23 or younger since the first season will probably be rotation with Suarez & learning from him, which an older striker probably wouldn't be willing to do.

 

compared to our midfield,suarez isnt that bad. he is still world class although the last match is disaster. still we need Lautaro next season.
our midfield is simply outdated. Cant believe that they forgot how to press.

 

I don’t know if I believe in that narrative. I’d like to think Messi would pick Barcelona over his friendship with Suarez if the latter’s performances were to be detrimental to the results. I’d hope Suarez is sensible enough to understand this too. It affects his own legacy too, after all.

 

I mean, surely it’s not that hard to create a connection with Messi. He makes everyone around him play better. I’d just like to see this connection result into goals in crucial matches at crucial times not just mostly in goal-fests. We’ll see how the CL goes this year.

As far as being 23 or younger, hello Lautaro. Fits the profile to a tee.

 

I understand your point, the only problem is that at some point this understanding needs to get us more than just a Liga. Even that is at risk this season.

For the past two seasons Messi has kicked off the season with a speech clearly emphasizing our CL ambitions. If we look at Suarez UCL record and compare it to top strikers it’s simply not good enough.

How much of this is to blame on him and how much on EV? If EV isn’t used as the reason for Suarez being good in the league than I feel it’s unfair to use him as a scapegoat for Suarez CL record.

Oh well, I know winning the CL isn’t a simple task and a lot depends on luck and form of the day, but again, when we compare with other top strikers Suarez seems to fall short time and again.

 

Never said otherwise.

Nice goal and 3 assists by Suarez today. Oh wait, we won by 3 doesn't count.

 

Surely you can do better than that last bit. Again, putting words in my mouth. I never said they didn’t count. Don’t be one of those guys, go back and actually read what I said. This only proves my point, goes missing when needed most, then goes on to do this against the mighty Alavez and all is forgiven. Recency bias at its best.

Anyway, might as well leave this here as we’re going around in circles and you keep paraphrasing me in order to emphasize your retort. I stated my opinion based on what I’ve seen and that’s that.

 

My gawd how deluded are the Real Madrid fans !?

In their version of this Classico thread they’re still whining about referee bias .. preferential fixtures .. political bias in our favour !!

In fact everything above clearly applies to them... I did go in their holding a ‘peace’ flag but I still got a written warning

 

Why do you even go there? I never go there, there's no point! LPB or LPF will always remain totalitarian authoritarian! You can't argue with a donkey!

 

I don’t go by choice ... I use TapaTalk so you follow ...comments/ thread titles but it doesn’t show if it’s on the. Barca section or Real Madrid or whoever ... it gets me into some bad places !!

 

Well for one thing I’m 61 and I’ve never ‘trolled’ anyone ..

I admitted that they should : could have had a penalty when Rakitic dragged Varane down - pulling his shirt .. but I didn’t get a look at the other one ( stamping?) .

 

But all collisions aren’t deliberate / intentional ( apart from Pepe / Ramos - obviously) ..

 

It means I didn’t fecking see the focking incident .. it’s not a denial ..

 

I never passed judgment on the ‘stamp’ as I never noticed it ..
I’ve made that clear all throughout .

 

You quoted a specific play he mentioned and replied to it.

I don’t see how any other conclusion could result of you suggesting that Lenglet on Varane may not have been deliberate/intentional.

i.e., why quote that incident if you did not intend to pass judgement on it?

 

I wasn’t passing judgment per se .. just offering a take on something he said - he had suggested that Lenglet deliberately stamped on Varane .. I don’t see Lenglet as a ‘Pepe’ type player and just stated a fact that all collisions are not deliberate or even fouls .


Seems fair and reasonable enough to my mind especially considering I saw Rakitic dragging Varane down and called it as a penalty when the tv pundit/ commentator didn’t even mention it ..

 

But if you hadn't seen the play in question, you're basically just making an assumption.

And you're old enough to know that you should never assume.