EL: Atalanta Bergamo - BVB

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  1. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    The return leg after the 3:2 home win.

    Bürki
    LP Sokratis Toprak Toljan
    Dahoud Sahin
    Pulisic Götze Schürrle
    Batshuayi

    Bench: Weidenfeller, Beste, Schmelzer, Zagadou, Reus, Castro, Isak

    I'm ok with Reus starting on the bench because he has played much since his return. Sahin's last game was a complete disaster (useless going forward, mistake that resulted in a goal) but we'll see how a Sahin+Dahoud partnership turns out.
     
  2. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  3. MtnGardener

    MtnGardener Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 21, 2017
    Fox match pass is accidentally showing ATM-KOB on the ATL-BVB stream :( :(
     
  4. MtnGardener

    MtnGardener Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 21, 2017
    Fixed time for the start!
     
  5. MtnGardener

    MtnGardener Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 21, 2017
    Ugh, Toljan. Yikes.
     
  6. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    1:0 for them. Bürki didn't look good with that insufficient clearance of a corner.
     
  7. MtnGardener

    MtnGardener Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 21, 2017
    Now Sokratis looking like Toljan. So fragile on defense.
     
  8. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    players look lost on the pitch. pulisic has been bad. michy worse. the rest are 50/50. götze didnt look offside to me.
     
  9. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Just 12 months ago, this was a team on the way to the 1/4 finals of the Champions League, with realistic hopes of semi finals.

    Now look at this match. A big, big decline
     
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  10. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Tuchel and Dembele hurt and were not replaced. Maybe we get Nagelsmann and spend some money, but IDK that I trust this FO without Mislintat.
     
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  11. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    1:1 Schmelzer. Hopefully we can bring it home now. Our midfield is only Sahin now after the offensive subs.
     
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  12. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    by the skin of our teeth we made it through. the only thing the entire squad did well was waste time. thats it.

    Gotze looks so much better. He's so involved in the play. If only he could become a threat with his dribbling he would be back to his old self.
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    team to avoid is Atletico Madrid, the remaining teams seem more beatable.
     
  14. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It is mostly down to coaching. Losing Thomas Tuchel hurt us the most. He could have done really well with this squad.
     
  15. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    1:1 in the end. Rather lucky and not a good game. Two very good chances wasted after the equalizer. We looked better after Reus came in.
    Bürki had a bad clearance and a good save to keep us in the game. That ratio isn't good enough though. I thought LP looked really bad for most of the game. So many bad passes and bad decisions were surprising.
     
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  16. podrinje

    podrinje Member+

    Borussia Dortmund
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Oct 10, 2013
    Bay Area!
    Club:
    Alemannia Aachen
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    We played like a team in which half the squad is in really bad form...which is the case because the player quality for the most part is there so it has to be coaching/psyche that's preventing them to get out of the funk.
     
  17. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Michy got racially insulted during the match. How typically Italian are the Atlanta football fans.
     
  18. Arlo

    Arlo Member

    Nov 9, 2005
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    the state of this squad when even schmelzer is an improvement.....
     
  19. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Positives

    The fact that Dortmund are getting the results they need despite scrappy performances is the only positive at the moment. Sunday's 1-0 win over Gladbach was similarly fortunate for the Black and Yellows but the first half of the season has shown that such torrid performances have a tendency to catch up with them eventually.

    Negatives

    BVB are building a house of cards on a foundation of luck and coincidence. Atalanta punished them early in the match for their lack of footballing ideas combined with inept defending. Under Peter Stoger, Dortmund look devoid of ideas as to how to progress the ball into the attacking third other than punting it downfield and hoping to pick up the second ball. The positional play was sub-par, the passing was easy to anticipate and their movement too lazy to evade Atalanta's simple man-marking scheme.

    Despite all their individual quality up front, Dortmund are overly reliant on their opponents to make a mistake. If this is the plan, it's bound to fail against better teams.


    Player ratings (1-10; 10 = best. Players introduced after 70 minutes get no rating)


    GK Roman Burki, 4 -- After a 10/10 performance at the weekend, Burki showed his European form by only punching air as he tried to clear Atalanta's first corner. Rafael Toloi pounced to score the opener after 10 minutes. The keeper somewhat redeemed himself with a vital intervention to deny Alejandro Gomez in the 82nd minute.

    DF Lukasz Piszczek, 3 -- Due to Dortmund's lack of ingenuity in their build-up play, they're forced to build down the wings. The 32-year-old veteran misplaced 32 of 71 passes, underscoring the sad truth that his glory days are long behind him.

    DF Sokratis Papastathopoulos, 4 -- Went into the book for an unnecessary tactical foul after 17 minutes.

    DF Omer Toprak, 4 -- Showed once again his solid build-up play but made too many defensive errors that only Burki could tidy up.

    DF Jeremy Toljan, 2 -- Due to a lack of build-up through the middle, it was especially harmful to Dortmund that Toljan misplaced five of nine passes in the first 11 minutes. He only managed to complete 16 out of 26 passes before his merciful half-time substitution.

    MF Nuri Sahin, 3 -- Bryan Cristante placed an uncontested header just wide after 26 minutes as Sahin failed to make a defensive run. Julian Weigl, who was suspended for this match, has absolutely nothing to fear for his starting spot.

    MF Mahmoud Dahoud, 3 -- Just like Sahin, the defensive midfielder had nearly no positive impact as BVB struggled to create chances.

    MF Christian Pulisic, 3 -- The slump of the 19-year-old continues. Atalanta created most of their attacks in the first half by waiting for Pulisic to run head first into a wall and lose the ball.

    MF Mario Gotze, 6 -- Due to his footballing intelligence, Gotze was the only player to create lethal combinations. It was not hard to be Dortmund's best player of the day.

    MF Andre Schurrle, 5 -- Was on the end of the visitor's only chance created from open play after 80 minutes. But Berisha had his side volley, aimed at the near post, covered.

    FW Michy Batshuayi, 5 -- Had to constantly drop back for his teammates to have any passing option. Unfortunately, he was then missing up front where he could have been involved in scoring chances.

    Substitutes

    DF Marcel Schmelzer, 5 -- Was a more astute passer than Toljan after making his comeback from a muscle injury in the second half. It was, however, far from adding any edge to BVB's attacking play and his goal was more dumb luck than anything else.

    MF Marco Reus, 5 -- Inadvertently assisted Schmelzer's goal by shooting from a desperate position. Reus invigorated BVB's attack visibly as he came on for Pulisic for the final half-hour.

    http://www.espn.com/soccer/club/bor...ucky-than-good-beat-atalanta-in-europa-league
     
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  20. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Schurrle again was the spark in attack...liking his progressive improvement...
     
  21. TimBenneth

    TimBenneth Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Uruguay
    May 10, 2017
    There are a few things I Would disagree wtih here. Burki is a conundrum as always, he blows hot and cold. the potential is there, but we only ever see it in flashes. Schurrle was not all that great and really should have scored. Batshuayi was completely invisible, a bad game from him. Reus coming on really changed things, Gotze was superb and the only one trying to create anything. Pisczek is getting old, you can just see how exhausted he is on that pitch, in his defense he has played a few too many games for his age this season, but I suppose there is no alternative. Toljan is ... well, let's just say he doesn't inspire confidence, and that is putting it mildly. This team desperately needs a RB and DM in the destroyer mold. Also, Pulisic, I don't really see what all the hype is about, granted he is still young aNd I THink he will develop well, but I think people overestimate his potential ... but I suppose that is just my opinion at the end of the day.
     
  22. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    How good is Pulisic
     
  23. TimBenneth

    TimBenneth Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Uruguay
    May 10, 2017
    Mi si juwi jamaa. Season hii, ame cheza mbaya, lakini ako kidogo. Ako na mweka mingi ku endeleza ... kama ako kwa Dortmund dani ya mweka mbili au tatu zote wasi juwi ... tuta onana tu
     
  24. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What?
     
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  25. Liquid1010

    Liquid1010 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Quote of the year - and today's match proves exactly that.

    p.s. How is Sahin still a professional footballer!?
     

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