Ej to Boca Jrs???

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  1. Spoon

    Spoon Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    Overland Park Ks
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. the_cyclones

    the_cyclones New Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    The Cauldron
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When does the Argentine Transfer Window end?

    Still, I think EJ is here until at least the summer transfer.
    I can't see Onalfo giving up on him, unless we get some ridiculous fee ...
     
  3. Craig-o

    Craig-o Member

    Sep 8, 2005
    Derby, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    EJ for Riquelme, straight up.

    :D
     
  4. Abracadabra

    Abracadabra BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 11, 2006
    Olathe, Kansas
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :eek:

    Hmm, what kind of an allocation would we get? EJ might be a disappointment but getting nothing for him would suck fairly bad.

    PS Reading those Babelfish translations can be pretty entertaining. Might as well have translated it to Chinese.
     
  5. degerron

    degerron New Member

    Feb 18, 2006
    Queens
    Can some give a little translation of the article? Surely they know he in a bit of a scoring drought like 2 goals last season and none in the past year for the USMNT. Why do teames from Spain and then a quality team like Boca Juniors who has tons of talented forwards find EJ so damn interesting?

    If MLS turns this opporunity down I can see him getting depressed AGAIN! MLS has done more to kill off his career opportunities then any other player in American history( ok he has done alot of that to himself). $4 or 5 million dollar transfer offer from Benefica Portugual, loan with option to buy offer from Real Sociaded in Spain which would have made him the first American to play in Spain's 1st division, and now this if its true one of the worlds most famous clubs Boca Juniors. MLS has to gain the common sense to let players go as it is better off transfering unhappy players.

    On the other hand I do question EJ's emotional maturity and a place like Boca Juniors may be too much for him. Not just the language and culture but the pressure those cats would have on him to perform I'm afraid he could crack. But the guy needs to be let pushed and be told sink or swim. What gets him to find the back of the net again I guess. Heres wishing him the best.
     
  6. MtMike

    MtMike Member+

    Nov 18, 1999
    the 417
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    REPPED!!!!

    Best idea I've ever read on these boards!
     
  7. Shaydee

    Shaydee Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    my spanish isn't good enough to translate the whole thing but Boca are looking to sign some non-South American players, partly for marketing and branding purposes. Their president wants to make Boca a global brand. EJ is one of the non-South American players they have their eye on. That's basically all it says about EJ. The rest is about other non-South American players that have played for Boca.

    2nd. Kasey Keller. Tab Ramos was on Betis' books while they were in the top flight but was recovering from his skull fracture and didn't play any games for them in the first division.
     
  8. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    Good find. I guess I'm obligated to comment huh? :)


    More than anything I want a striker to perform for KC. Sealy has done well and I want us to have a good partner for him. If Vermes, Onalfo and Henderson believe they can get that from EJ then we should keep him. If EJ's heart isn't in KC and he wants to move, we should take any reasonable offer. We saw how he performed last season when his heart wasn't in the right place and that very well could have been the old regime's fault. Either way, I don't want that to happen to our club again.

    As always, it's what's best for our club. I'll completely trust the staff's opinion until they give me reason not to.
     
  9. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While EJ has been one frustration after another with KC. I honestly don't see this as a good move for KC unless they have plans to bring in another striker. If they don't have a plan then I say keep EJ. While he's not doing great, I rate him higher then any other forward on our roster, minus Sealy. We think our team is weak now, imagine a starting 11 with Pore or Yura starting up top with Sealy. That just scares me.
     
  10. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    2006 Stats
    Johnson: 2 goals, 1 assist in 1480 minutes
    Pore: 2 goals in 563 minutes
    Yura: 0 goals in 221 minutes

    In no way would I suggest that Pore has the potential that Johnson has. I just wanted to see what the stats were because I didn't know.
     
  11. Abracadabra

    Abracadabra BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 11, 2006
    Olathe, Kansas
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually I think Pore/Sealy wouldn't be as bad a pair of forwards as you might think. Although it's way too thin, you have a point there. Yura as our third forward is what is scary to me.
     
  12. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I usually don't pay much attention to Eric Wynalda, but his point last night during the USMNT broadcast of Onalfo bringing the best out of EJ was well made.

    I am taking a "wait and see" on EJ for this season. Onalfo seems to have the reputation of working well with younger players and has worked with EJ in the past.

    And if EJ needs a larger fire lit under him then Onalfo calls on PV and PV rails on him!
     
  13. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Not getting paid on a regular basis will light a fire under EJ. :)
     
  14. beshkno

    beshkno New Member

    Mar 8, 2007
    Lawrence, KS
    Get rid of him. He has not performed at all and he is a crybag to boot.
     
  15. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Yes because all athletes who have a bad season at 21 suck for the rest of their careers. :rolleyes:
     
  16. Abracadabra

    Abracadabra BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 11, 2006
    Olathe, Kansas
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Last year he was unsupportive of his teammates, and we had a better option anyway. This year he's what we have; unless we want to trade him for a mf and go 4-5-1, we seem to have little choice in the matter. His play seems marginally better with the Nats than it was last year; I'd really like to see what Onalfo can bring out of him this season. If he makes little to zero progress, or he acts like an assclown again then I will be solidly in the fire sale camp.
     
  17. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Okay, absolutely not. Yeah Johnson drastically underperformed last year, but we havn't even given him the chance of a compltely new ownership / coaching staff and the completley different attitude / atmosphere of the players that go along with it. Along with the giving away of other players that we've done all offseason, getting rid of Johnson right now would be absolutely stupid. Especially since Wolff is already gone. Do you really think Sealy and Movsisyan / Pore would give us a .500+ season? Cuz I don't.
     
  18. DynamoRules

    DynamoRules New Member

    Aug 10, 2006
    Here's my biliningual breakdown (I can't believe a Dynamo fan is helping you wizos, sigh, country before club...

    It says that Boca is trying to expand into markets outside of South America as part of a "Boca Grows" initiative. As part of this initiative, they have been bringing in players from other parts of the world. They brought in a Swiss, a Japanese, a Chinese and a Hungarian player. All of these guys never played a game with the first team. They also talk about the fact that he's currently playing with the national team, but then go back to talking about the US as an untapped market.

    Analysis:

    So it looks like this is a clever little marketing scheme dictated by Boca's FO that never was supported by the coaching staff. And I suspect, due to EJ's lack of cleverness and skill on the ball, that he would become the next victim of this scheme if he were to go to BJs. I think he'd be better off staying in KC.
    Though, I'm not sure if KC would be better off having him.
     
  19. Redfoot

    Redfoot New Member

    Dec 19, 2002
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I prefer he stays and I really don't think the new owners are going to sell him this close to the season starting after turing down offers in the offseason. That just doesn't make any sense.
     
  20. directorman

    directorman New Member

    Jan 21, 2007
    Omaha
    I just posted about this in my new blog (omg pimping it! Check sig!) but my opinion is to let him go.

    We should try to sign a striker, obviously, but who knows...maybe we could try Pore upfront for a game or two and see what happens.

    He might even click with Sealy!
     
  21. Jarnevic

    Jarnevic BBQTID

    Apr 21, 2005
    Dead Center
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eddie can't leave. It would kill my dream of getting "Johnson & Johnson" as a sponsor, and then I could buy an Eddie Johnson jersey that says "Johnson" on it three times. Then, Eddie could team up with Larry and Derrick from the Chiefs for some some charity event, and it would be called "Johnson's against Jaundice," featuring Eddie Johnson, Larry Johnson and Derrick Johnson, sponsored by Johnson & Johnson. Or when they have those $1 brat nights, the ads would say "$1 BRATS, sponsored by Johnsonville and Johnson & Johnson.

    Ahhhhh, that would be awesome.

    Not to mention the hillarious phallic references.
     
  22. Beech

    Beech Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Johnson's as far as the eye can see.

    (Not something you like to here when you've just paid a cover to get into a bar. Where was the ladies night?)
     
  23. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Ok from what i take from this article is, They are tyring to expand the brand boca juniors to foreign markets beyond spanish speaking countries, so their solution was buying players from other countries, like Top Japan Goal scorer back in 2000 i believe, takahara who didnt really work well at all with bocas playing style, and they had to sell him.


    How it goes is from what i see, if EJ is bought by them, he will play mostly in the reserves unless he can really show them that he has the goods to play with the first team. I'd imagine they wouldnt be down for dropping mad cash unless im completely wrong.


    They want to buy him to sell more jerseys.


    Man that would be cool though, a US nat player on boca.
     
  24. Dirt

    Dirt Member

    May 11, 2006
    KCMO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Realistically I think EJ stays put. It's too late to trade him before the season. Personally I'm sick and tired of EJ. He has the most apathetic play on the field and I'm not sure that the muscles in his legs are connected with his brain. For the sake of all our frustrations I sure hope all this change affects him positively, although it hasn't looked that way with the Nats.
     
  25. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a rule I personally only post my blog entry in a thread if someone else already has, so here's my shameless plug

    http://downthebyline.blogspot.com/2007/03/eddie-johnson-to-boca-jrs.html
     

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